From tpscam Path: vela!umich!caen!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!unix.cis.pitt.edu!dsinc!ub!uhura.cc.rochester.edu!rochester!pt.cs.cmu.edu!o.gp.cs.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!jq07+ From: jq07+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jennifer Quirin) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: AGH! 26 Jan episode Message-ID: Date: 27 Jan 91 03:23:34 GMT Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 19 Did the 26 Jan episode appear anywhere else out there, or has TP been cancelled? I turned on my TV tonight to the Pittsburgh ABC aff. to find a show about wrestlers! ACK! If someone else has seen the 26 Jan episode and has a videotape of it, it would be greatly appreciated if you could send mail to one of the addresses in the .sig in reply. THanks! jen /=============================================================================\ |Jennifer Quirin student, Carnegie Mellon University | |quirin@{cs,ece,andrew}.cmu.edu <= internet | |known_world!harvard!andrew.cmu.edu!jq07 <= uucp | |=============================================================================| |Opinions expressed herein are not CMU's, and are probably not even mine, | |since I am not really posting: I am hard at work as I am supposed to be. | \=============================================================================/ From tpscam Path: vela!rjohnson From: rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu (R o d Johnson) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: AGH! 26 Jan episode Keywords: Major SPOILERS Message-ID: <4897@vela.acs.oakland.edu> Date: 27 Jan 91 21:33:57 GMT References: Reply-To: rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu (R o d Johnson) Organization: Altered States of America Lines: 34 In article jq07+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jennifer Quirin) writes: >Did the 26 Jan episode appear anywhere else out there, or has TP >been cancelled? I turned on my TV tonight to the Pittsburgh ABC aff. >to find a show about wrestlers! ACK! It was great! Cooper continued his search for property in Twin Peaks--he's now obsessed with living off the land and recycling. The scene where Andy got head stuck in the Clivus Multrum was great. Shelley and Leo made up; Leo seems to have mellowed considerably because of his trauma. Audrey seems to be falling into the clutches of some sort of pipe-smoking guru type who runs something called the Church of the S-somethingorother (we couldn't see the whole word), Donna pulled off a daring rescue of James--boy does he look silly in women's clothes!--and we get some insight into why Lucy's hair looks that way. The Wyndham Earle plot went nowhere--the shot we saw of him introducing himself in the previews turns out to be from a commercial for a used-car dealership! Questions and thoughts: --what the heck was Johnny Horne doing driving a *police car*?? --anyone notice that Leo seems to have one of those three-triangle symbols tatooed on his hand? --the food fight between Pete, Doc and Ben was stupid--and where did they get the pie? There was no pie there at the beginning of the scene? --I'm glad Dick is finally dead, though of *course* they had to mention that he had a twin brother. Sheesh. --So Andrew Packard is a *diabetic*. . . hmmm. . . --anyone notice the llama turned up again? Can Dr. Bob Lydecker be far behind? -- Rod Johnson * rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu * (313) 650 2315 "I pissed on the man who called me a dog. Why was he so surprised?" --Diogenes From tpscam Path: vela!umich!caen!math.lsa.umich.edu!math.lsa.umich.edu!ekushnir From: ekushnir@math.lsa.umich.edu (Eugene Kushnirsky) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: AGH! 26 Jan episode Keywords: Major SPOILERS Message-ID: <1991Jan27.231740.6059@math.lsa.umich.edu> Date: 27 Jan 91 23:17:40 GMT References: <4897@vela.acs.oakland.edu> Sender: usenet@math.lsa.umich.edu Organization: University of Michigan Math Dept., Ann Arbor Lines: 27 In article <4897@vela.acs.oakland.edu> rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu (R o d Johnson) writes: >In article jq07+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jennifer Quirin) writes: >>Did the 26 Jan episode appear anywhere else out there, or has TP >>been cancelled? I turned on my TV tonight to the Pittsburgh ABC aff. >>to find a show about wrestlers! ACK! > >It was great! Cooper continued his search for property in Twin >Peaks--he's now obsessed with living off the land and recycling. The >scene where Andy got head stuck in the Clivus Multrum was great. I tuned in late and missed that scene. Could someone send me a tape? (Beta, please.) I'll gladly reimburse you. >Shelley and Leo made up; Leo seems to have mellowed considerably >because of his trauma. Audrey seems to be falling into the clutches >of some sort of pipe-smoking guru type who runs something called the >Church of the S-somethingorother (we couldn't see the whole word), >Donna pulled off a daring rescue of James--boy does he look silly in >women's clothes! Yes! HA-HA! The image of him on his bike in a miniskirt was priceless! Pure Lynch! -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | Your manuscript is both good and original. But the part that is good is | | not original, and the part that is original is not good. --S. Johnson | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From tpscam Path: vela!umich!caen!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!jarthur!ucivax!bonnie.ics.uci.edu!bvickers From: bvickers@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Brett J. Vickers) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: AGH! 26 Jan episode Keywords: Major SPOILERS Message-ID: <27A36097.13487@ics.uci.edu> Date: 27 Jan 91 23:21:59 GMT References: <4897@vela.acs.oakland.edu> Reply-To: bvickers@ics.uci.edu (Brett J. Vickers) Organization: UC Irvine Department of ICS Lines: 44 Nntp-Posting-Host: bonnie.ics.uci.edu rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu (R o d Johnson) writes: >Questions and thoughts: >--what the heck was Johnny Horne doing driving a *police car*?? Good question. If you listen to him carefully while he is mumbling, you can almost hear him say something about owls. At least I think that's what he was saying. >--anyone notice that Leo seems to have one of those three-triangle > symbols tatooed on his hand? YES! I wonder when they had time to abduct Leo. >--the food fight between Pete, Doc and Ben was stupid--and where did > they get the pie? There was no pie there at the beginning of the scene? Think about it. This happened in the RR where pies abound! >--I'm glad Dick is finally dead, though of *course* they had to > mention that he had a twin brother. Sheesh. I know what you mean. I breathed a sigh of relief when little Nickie finally offed Dick, but when his twin brother showed up, I almost vomited. >--So Andrew Packard is a *diabetic*. . . hmmm. . . Huh? I don't remember that... >--anyone notice the llama turned up again? Can Dr. Bob Lydecker be > far behind? Scary thought. A better question might be if the OAM can be far behind. All in all, though, the 26Jan episode was pretty awesome. Brett -- bvickers@ics.uci.edu|"One who would guide a leader of men in the uses of life brett@ucippro.bitnet| Will warn him against the use of arms for conquest. | Even the finest arms are an instrument of evil: | An army's harvest is a waste of thorns." - _Tao Te Ching_ From tpscam Path: vela!umich!samsung!spool2.mu.edu!uwm.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!ceblair From: ceblair@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Charles Blair) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: AGH! 26 Jan episode Keywords: Major SPOILERS Message-ID: <1991Jan27.232350.2946@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: 27 Jan 91 23:23:50 GMT References: <4897@vela.acs.oakland.edu> Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 3 And they got Agnes de Pesto as a temp while Lucy was applying for work as a waitress at the RR From tpscam Path: vela!umich!caen!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!think.com!mintaka!spdcc!rdonahue From: rdonahue@spdcc.COM (Bob Donahue) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: AGH! 26 Jan episode Keywords: Major SPOILERS Message-ID: <6231@spdcc.SPDCC.COM> Date: 27 Jan 91 23:44:06 GMT References: <4897@vela.acs.oakland.edu> <1991Jan27.232350.2946@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> Organization: Las Cruces Knitting Supplies and Chainsaw repair Lines: 16 In article <1991Jan27.232350.2946@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> ceblair@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Charles Blair) writes: > > And they got Agnes de Pesto as a temp while Lucy was applying for work as >a waitress at the RR ARE you all Bsing or did this episode take place? I saw no listing of it whatsoever, and although KVIA is the shittiest excuse for a network affiliate there is (they rarely if ever show an entire week's worth of stuff without something gettin gshuffled somewhere or dropped), I was under the impression that there was no episode for 1/26/91.. Don't PLAY with our minds like that! If the episode DID happen, can someone get me a copy? Bob From tpscam Path: vela!umich!samsung!uunet!world!eff!mnemonic From: mnemonic@eff.org (Mike Godwin) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: AGH! 26 Jan episode Keywords: Major SPOILERS Message-ID: <1991Jan28.004427.10251@eff.org> Date: 28 Jan 91 00:44:27 GMT References: <4897@vela.acs.oakland.edu> <1991Jan27.232350.2946@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> <6231@spdcc.SPDCC.COM> Organization: The Electronic Frontier Foundation Lines: 27 In article <6231@spdcc.SPDCC.COM> rdonahue@spdcc.COM (Bob Donahue) writes: > > If the episode DID happen, can someone get me a copy? Normally I'd be able to send you one, but I had troubles with my VCR last night--didn't realize it wasn't running until we saw the scene with the mark on Leo's hand--I wanted to play it back to get a better look at it later, and that's when I realized that the VCR hadn't been taping. Damn! --Mike P.S. I'm with Brett--I missed the bit about Andrew Packard's being a diabetic. -- Mike Godwin, (617) 864-0665 | "That information, as I have repeated infinitely mnemonic@eff.org | to myself, is classified ... though the keeping Electronic Frontier | of secrets ... seems less meaningful to me now." Foundation | --Major Garland Briggs From tpscam Path: vela!rjohnson From: rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu (R o d Johnson) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: AGH! 26 Jan episode Keywords: Major SPOILERS Message-ID: <4900@vela.acs.oakland.edu> Date: 28 Jan 91 01:29:31 GMT References: <4897@vela.acs.oakland.edu> <1991Jan27.232350.2946@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> <6231@spdcc.SPDCC.COM> <1991Jan28.004427.10251@eff.org> Reply-To: rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu (R o d Johnson) Organization: Altered States of America Lines: 14 In article <1991Jan28.004427.10251@eff.org> mnemonic@eff.org (Mike Godwin) writes: >P.S. I'm with Brett--I missed the bit about Andrew Packard's being >a diabetic. I dunno, maybe I'm wrong (that's never happened before!)--what else would Packard be doing with all that insulin? That *was* insulin, wasn't it? -- Rod Johnson * rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu * (313) 650 2315 "I pissed on the man who called me a dog. Why was he so surprised?" --Diogenes From tpscam Path: vela!umich!samsung!uunet!bu.edu!shelby!neon!michaelg From: michaelg@Neon.Stanford.EDU (Michael Greenwald) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: AGH! 26 Jan episode Keywords: Major SPOILERS Message-ID: <1991Jan28.014951.25456@Neon.Stanford.EDU> Date: 28 Jan 91 01:49:51 GMT References: <4897@vela.acs.oakland.edu> <27A36097.13487@ics.uci.edu> Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University Lines: 29 bvickers@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Brett J. Vickers) writes: >rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu (R o d Johnson) writes: >>Questions and thoughts: >>--I'm glad Dick is finally dead, though of *course* they had to >> mention that he had a twin brother. Sheesh. >I know what you mean. I breathed a sigh of relief when little Nickie >finally offed Dick, but when his twin brother showed up, I almost >vomited. No! No! No! You were fooled. The fact that the Mysterious Guy showed up in the background just >after< Dick mumbles his dying message to be sent to his twin brother, doesn't mean that the Mysterious Guy is his twin brother. It's Jonathon. (I thought it was Pete at first, but after freeze framing it's >clearly< Jonathon). (Did anyone else notice that the one shot of Invitation to Love didn't mirror or foreshadow the TP action very well? Or, at least, not as well as last season -- TP is definitely slipping) >Brett >-- >bvickers@ics.uci.edu|"One who would guide a leader of men in the uses of life >brett@ucippro.bitnet| Will warn him against the use of arms for conquest. > | Even the finest arms are an instrument of evil: > | An army's harvest is a waste of thorns." - _Tao Te Ching_ From tpscam Path: vela!umich!samsung!caen!news.cs.indiana.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!sarwate From: sarwate@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Sanjiv Sarwate) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: AGH! 26 Jan episode Keywords: Major SPOILERS Message-ID: <1991Jan28.032044.2105@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: 28 Jan 91 03:20:44 GMT References: <4897@vela.acs.oakland.edu> <1991Jan27.232350.2946@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 36 ceblair@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Charles Blair) writes: > And they got Agnes de Pesto as a temp while Lucy was applying for work as >a waitress at the RR Yeah, it was a real thrill to see her again. So, I was sort of surprised at the resolution of the James subplot. I mean, who would think that even someone as dumb as him would agree to play with fire? The way in which he took care of Evelyn, Jeffrey and the chauffeur was at the same time grotesque and fascinating, and utterly Lynch. It is a supreme pleasure to have him directing again. Such a pity it won't last. Incidentally, did anyone else catch the subtle foreshadowing at the end of the episode? In the note that Audrey takes from her father's desk? I was able to freeze on the words on the paper. Using my computer to blow it up, I read the following: hguorht eht krad fo erutuf tsap Eht naicigam sgnol ot ees Eno stnahc tuo neewteb owt sdlrow Erif, klaw htiw em. siht edopsipe reven deneppah Eseht elpoep era gnittihsllub uoy Txen edosipe si no yraurbef 2 No 19/91/1 ti dias "Ni Owt Skeew" I'm not sure what the note means, but the suddenly serious expression on Audrey's face after she reads it leads me to suspect the worst. Any ideas? -- Sanjiv Sarwate "But what is truth? sarwate@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu Is truth unchanging law? BITNET: SANJIV@UIUCVMD.BITNET We both have truths. Are mine the same as yours?" From tpscam Path: vela!umich!samsung!usc!jarthur!nntp-server.caltech.edu!piglet!coufal From: coufal@piglet.caltech.edu (David Ernest Coufal) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Credits for 2014 Message-ID: <1991Jan28.043212.2125@nntp-server.caltech.edu> Date: 28 Jan 91 04:32:12 GMT Sender: news@nntp-server.caltech.edu Distribution: na Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Lines: 206 Originator: coufal@piglet Nntp-Posting-Host: piglet Twin Peaks Season Two Episode 14 (2014) [Opening Credits] TWIN PEAKS Starring Kyle MacLachlan Michael Ontkean Madchen Amick Dana Ashbrook Richard Beymer Lara Flynn Boyle Sherilyn Fenn Warren Frost Peggy Lipton James Marshall Everett McGill Jack Nance Kimmy Robertson Joan Chen as Jocelyn Packard Dan O'Herlihy as Andrew Packard and Piper Laurie as Catherine Martell Created by Mark Frost & David Lynch [Commercial Break] Starring Eric Da Re Harry Goaz Michael Horse Guest Starring Chris Mulkey Ian Buchanan David Duchovny Wendy Robie Don Davis Gary Hershberger Annette McCarthy Nicholas Love Music Composed & Conducted by Angelo Badalamenti Producer Harley Peyton Supervising Producer Gregg Fienberg Written by Harley Peyton and Robert Engles Directed by Alan Smithee [Ending Credits] Executive Producers Mark Frost David Lynch [Commerical Break] Co-Producer Robert Engels Co-Producer Robert D. Simon Associate Producer Philip Neel Director of Photography Frank Byers Production Designer Richard Hoover Editor Toni Morgan Coordinating Producer Tim Harbert Post Production Supervisor John Wentworth Original & Series Casting by Johanna Ray, C. S. A. Starring Kenneth Welsh as Windom Earle Co-Starring Jesse Ventura J. R. Dobbs Craig MacLachlan Dead Man #2 and #3 Carel Struycken The Giant Johnny Horne Robert Bauer "Invitation to Love" Lance Davis Chet Linda Evans Marla Peter Michael Goetz Jared Production Manager Gregg Fienberg Unit Production Manager Robert D. Simon First Assistant Director Scott Cameron 2nd Assistant Director Randy Barbee 2nd 2nd Assistant Director Marty Mericka Production Controller Nowell B. Grossman Production Accountant Connie Dolph Supervising Coordinator Joseph Montrone Production Coordinator Sabrina S. Nathanson Production Secretary Lauren McAuliffe Script Supervisor Cori Glazer Camera Operator Lex Du Pont 1st Assistant Camera Billy Brao 2nd Assistant Camera Rick Drapkin Set Decorator Kerry Oaksmith Construction Coordinator Keith Cox Property Master Jeffery Moore Property Assistant Richard Robinson Lead Painter Dave Robinson Costume Designer Sara Markowitz Costume Supervisor Laurie L. Hudson Make-up Carla Roseto Fabrizi Hair Annette E. Fabrizi Make-up/Hair Assistant Linda A. Vallejo Gaffer Robert Ferrara Key Grip Irv Katz Sound Mixer Don Summer, C.A.S. Art Department Coordinator Jula Bell Transportation Coordinator Steve Boyd Transportation Captain Greg Van Dyke Location Liaison Barry Gremillion Casting Associate Elaine J. Huzzar Unit Publicist Paula K. Shimatsu-U. Assistant to David Lynch Debby Trutnik Assistant to Mark Frost Kim L. Wilson Assistant to Gregg Fienberg Emily Fincher Writers Assistant Lori Tulli-Mitchell Music Editor Lori L. Eschler Supervising Sound Editor Richard Taylor Sound Editors Patrick McCormick Richard F. Davis Tom de Gorter Re-recording Mixers Gary Alexander Adam Jenkins Orchestrations Angelo Badalamenti Synthesizer Kinny Landrum Assistant Film Editor Alexis Seymour Assistant Music Editor Rick Woods Post Production Coordinator Elizabeth Fox Post Production Associate Chris Brown Apprentice Film Editors Bambi Sickafoose Bob Allen Assorted wardrobe provided by The Greif Company Logging Vehicles provided by WHITEGMC Trucks & Whit-Log Trailers Extras Casting Superior Casting, Inc. Titles & Opticals by Pacific Title Color by de luxe (R) Telecine and Electronic Post Production Encore Video Telecine Colorist Drew Marsh Post Production Sound & Sound Effects by TODD-AO/Glen Glenn Studios Lenses and Panaflex (R) Camera by Panavision (R) Dolby Surround (TM) Copyright MCMLXCI by Lynch/Frost Productions, Inc. All rights reserved The persons and events portrayed are intended to be entirely fictional and any resemblance to actual persons or events is merely coincidental. This motion picture is protected under Laws of the United States and other countries. Unauthorized duplication, distribution or exhibition may result in civil liability and criminal prosecution. In association with PROPAGANDA FILMS SPELLING ENTERTAINMENT, Inc. LYNCH/FROST PRODUCTIONS -- David E. Coufal coufal@owl.caltech.edu "One time I removed all the hair from a mouse with Nair-Hair just to see what it looked like. And it looked beautiful." - David K. Lynch From tpscam Path: vela!rjohnson From: rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu (R o d Johnson) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: AGH! 26 Jan episode Keywords: Major SPOILERS Message-ID: <4903@vela.acs.oakland.edu> Date: 28 Jan 91 05:34:43 GMT References: <4897@vela.acs.oakland.edu> <27A36097.13487@ics.uci.edu> <1991Jan28.014951.25456@Neon.Stanford.EDU> Reply-To: rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu (R o d Johnson) Organization: Altered States of America Lines: 47 In article <1991Jan28.014951.25456@Neon.Stanford.EDU> michaelg@Neon.Stanford.EDU (Michael Greenwald) writes: >bvickers@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Brett J. Vickers) writes: >>rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu (R o d Johnson) writes: >>>--I'm glad Dick is finally dead, though of *course* they had to >>> mention that he had a twin brother. Sheesh. >>I know what you mean. I breathed a sigh of relief when little Nickie >>finally offed Dick, but when his twin brother showed up, I almost >>vomited. >No! No! No! You were fooled. The fact that the Mysterious Guy showed >up in the background just >after< Dick mumbles his dying message to be >sent to his twin brother, doesn't mean that the Mysterious Guy is his >twin brother. It's Jonathon. (I thought it was Pete at first, but >after freeze framing it's >clearly< Jonathon). Whew, I'm glad someone else saw that scene my way. I didn't think that guy (if it *was* a guy) was Dick's twin. Dick just said "must tell Ned. . . my twin, you know. . . we never. . . got on too well, you see." etc., and then in the next shot we see this "guy" watching. When Brett said it *was* Dick's twin, I couldn't figure out what I missed. On the other hand, I didn't see it as Jonathan either. Could it be what's his name, Eckert? But what would the whole Nick'n'Dick storyline have to do with Eckert anyway? (Of course, now that the secret of Nicky's parentage is out of the bag, anything could happen.) Oh well, I'm sure it'll all be made clear in about six months. >(Did anyone else notice that the one shot of Invitation to Love didn't >mirror or foreshadow the TP action very well? Or, at least, not as >well as last season -- TP is definitely slipping) Oh, I don't know. Fist fight = food fight . . . not too shabby, I think. Good to see Chet survived last season, by the way. :) Things We Saw: log truck, sprinklers Things We Didn't: traffic light, owl Things I Couldn't Make Out: the special in the RR-- stew? -- Rod Johnson * rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu * (313) 650 2315 "I pissed on the man who called me a dog. Why was he so surprised?" --Diogenes From tpscam Path: vela!rjohnson From: rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu (R o d Johnson) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: AGH! 26 Jan episode Keywords: Major SPOILERS Message-ID: <4904@vela.acs.oakland.edu> Date: 28 Jan 91 05:39:37 GMT References: <4897@vela.acs.oakland.edu> <1991Jan27.232350.2946@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> <1991Jan28.032044.2105@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> Reply-To: rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu (R o d Johnson) Organization: Altered States of America Lines: 20 In article <1991Jan28.032044.2105@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> sarwate@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Sanjiv Sarwate) writes: [regarding James' freakout] >The way in which he took care of Evelyn, Jeffrey and the chauffeur was at >the same time grotesque and fascinating, and utterly Lynch. It is a supreme >pleasure to have him directing again. Such a pity it won't last. So. . . was the actor playing Jeffrey the same guy as the black general that talked about what a great pilot the Major was, a couple episodes back? We couldn't decide. It sure looked like him, but it seemed so unlikely. You know, even while James was completely losing it, he was *still* boring. I suspect he'll be out of action pretty soon, though. -- Rod Johnson * rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu * (313) 650 2315 "I pissed on the man who called me a dog. Why was he so surprised?" --Diogenes From tpscam Path: vela!umich!caen!sdd.hp.com!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!news.larc.nasa.gov!ames!vsi1!zorch!phil From: phil@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Phil Gustafson) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: AGH! 26 Jan episode Message-ID: <1991Jan28.031048.23047@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG> Date: 28 Jan 91 03:10:48 GMT References: Organization: Famed Parquet Floor Lines: 29 In article jq07+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jennifer Quirin) writes: >Did the 26 Jan episode appear anywhere else out there, or has TP >been cancelled? I turned on my TV tonight to the Pittsburgh ABC aff. >to find a show about wrestlers! ACK! >jen [Thanks to all who composed the marvelous followons to this.] The previews at the end of the 1/19 show said that TP would be back in _two_ weeks. Nobody got to see a new TP this weekend. For the record, the pilot shown was perhaps the most horrendously wretched piece of crap of the decade, or the current decade plus the 80's. It wasn't even campy fun -- it was purely and simply stupid. I've forgotten its name already. I mean, they could have shown _real_ fake wrestling, or "Great Moments of Petticoat Junction, and come out ahead. And if TP was behind in its shooting, they could have shown one of the "China Beach" episodes they have in the can. ABC has no respect. -- | phil@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG | Phil Gustafson | {ames|pyramid|vsi1}!zorch!phil | UN*X/graphics consultant | sgi!gsi!phil | 1550 Martin Ave., San Jose CA 95126 | phil@gsi | 408/286-1749 From tpscam Path: vela!umich!caen!sdd.hp.com!cs.utexas.edu!ut-emx!ccwf.cc.utexas.edu From: js9g@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (S.H. Snyder, Jr. (Jay)) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: AGH! 26 Jan episode Summary: insulin motif Keywords: Major SPOILERS like you wouldn't believe! Message-ID: <43292@ut-emx.uucp> Date: 28 Jan 91 06:32:22 GMT References: <4897@vela.acs.oakland.edu> <1991Jan27.232350.2946@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> <6231@spdcc.SPDCC.COM> <1991Jan28.004427.10251@eff.org> <4900@vela.acs.oakland.edu> Sender: news@ut-emx.uucp Reply-To: js9g@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (S.H. Snyder, Jr. (Jay)) Distribution: na Organization: None for me thanks... Lines: 24 rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu (R o d Johnson) writes (in article <4900@vela.acs.oakland.edu>)... |In article <1991Jan28.004427.10251@eff.org> mnemonic@eff.org (Mike |Godwin) writes: | |>P.S. I'm with Brett--I missed the bit about Andrew Packard's being |>a diabetic. | |I dunno, maybe I'm wrong (that's never happened before!)--what else |would Packard be doing with all that insulin? That *was* insulin, |wasn't it? | Oh! That was *insulin*! Now I understand why they gave him all the needle references (tying him in with Blackie, et al). God, I've been losing sleep over that...thanks for clearing it up. I remain, -- ___________________________________________________________________________ "Diane, I'm holding in my hand a small box of | SILENCE=DEATH chocolate bunnies." -- Dale Cooper | Live free or shut up. Hey! I didn't eat the mousse! -Meaning of Life | js9g@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu From tpscam Path: vela!umich!caen!sdd.hp.com!spool2.mu.edu!uunet!alembic!csu From: csu@alembic.acs.com (Dave Mack) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: AGH! 26 Jan episode (SPOILERS) Keywords: Major SPOILERS Message-ID: <1991Jan28.054550.24045@alembic.acs.com> Date: 28 Jan 91 05:45:50 GMT References: <4897@vela.acs.oakland.edu> <27A36097.13487@ics.uci.edu> <1991Jan28.014951.25456@Neon.Stanford.EDU> Organization: Alembic Computer Services McLean VA Lines: 57 In article <1991Jan28.014951.25456@Neon.Stanford.EDU> michaelg@Neon.Stanford.EDU (Michael Greenwald) writes: >bvickers@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Brett J. Vickers) writes: > >>rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu (R o d Johnson) writes: > >>>Questions and thoughts: > >>>--I'm glad Dick is finally dead, though of *course* they had to >>> mention that he had a twin brother. Sheesh. > >>I know what you mean. I breathed a sigh of relief when little Nickie >>finally offed Dick, but when his twin brother showed up, I almost >>vomited. > >No! No! No! You were fooled. The fact that the Mysterious Guy showed >up in the background just >after< Dick mumbles his dying message to be >sent to his twin brother, doesn't mean that the Mysterious Guy is his >twin brother. It's Jonathon. (I thought it was Pete at first, but >after freeze framing it's >clearly< Jonathon). Jonathan, as I recall, was oriental. The "twin brother" didn't look even vaguely oriental. He *did* look a lot like Dick. I think it was his twin. I'm still betting that Nicky isn't a BOB-vessel, though. Let's face it, as a vehicle for pure evil, a child Nicky's age doesn't have the options an adult has. >(Did anyone else notice that the one shot of Invitation to Love didn't >mirror or foreshadow the TP action very well? Or, at least, not as >well as last season -- TP is definitely slipping) I can deal with that. ITL is just window-dressing. The thing that really bothers me is that, in the last scene in the sheriff's office, Lucy was starting to show a noticeable bulge in the abdominal area. Don't these people bother to keep track of how much time has passed in TP? She's barely over three months pregnant; she can't possibly be starting to show it yet. Oh, one other thing. I thought the vials that Andrew was counting were morphine, not insulin. I don't think insulin comes in the vials with glass snap-off tops. One final thought: the Donna/James reunion and escape was completely asinine. I mean, what was the point of all that build up, the obvious con that Evelyn and her "brother" were running on James, then this incredible let-down ending to the thread? It's like they let an amateur writer finish off a part of the story they were tired of, and said amateur decided they needed another transvestite to complete the usual TP duality. It's really hard for me slam an episode that Lynch directed, but this one wasn't very good. It goes to show that no director can overcome such bad writing. -- Dave Mack From tpscam Path: vela!umich!caen!sdd.hp.com!spool2.mu.edu!uunet!alembic!csu From: csu@alembic.acs.com (Dave Mack) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: AGH! 26 Jan episode Keywords: Major SPOILERS Message-ID: <1991Jan28.055148.24109@alembic.acs.com> Date: 28 Jan 91 05:51:48 GMT References: <4897@vela.acs.oakland.edu> Organization: Alembic Computer Services McLean VA Lines: 28 In article <4897@vela.acs.oakland.edu> rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu (R o d Johnson) writes: >In article jq07+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jennifer Quirin) writes: >>Did the 26 Jan episode appear anywhere else out there, or has TP >>been cancelled? I turned on my TV tonight to the Pittsburgh ABC aff. >>to find a show about wrestlers! ACK! > >Questions and thoughts: >--what the heck was Johnny Horne doing driving a *police car*?? Lynch *has* to be trying to say something with this. It sure as hell wasn't a "style" scene, like the wind repeated shots of the wind blowing through the firs, or the traffic light. It seemed to have no connection with anything else we've seen. Unless...BOB entered Leland when he was "young and innocent". Who's more young and innocent than Johnny Horne? >--So Andrew Packard is a *diabetic*. . . hmmm. . . Say what? Where did you get this? >--anyone notice the llama turned up again? Can Dr. Bob Lydecker be > far behind? Not to nitpick, but the brown markings mean that it was an alpaca, not a llama. -- Dave Mack From tpscam Path: vela!umich!caen!sdd.hp.com!spool2.mu.edu!uunet!alembic!csu From: csu@alembic.acs.com (Dave Mack) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: AGH! 26 Jan episode (SPOILERS) Keywords: Major SPOILERS Message-ID: <1991Jan28.060955.24293@alembic.acs.com> Date: 28 Jan 91 06:09:55 GMT References: <4897@vela.acs.oakland.edu> <27A36097.13487@ics.uci.edu> Organization: Alembic Computer Services McLean VA Lines: 45 In article <27A36097.13487@ics.uci.edu> bvickers@ics.uci.edu (Brett J. Vickers) writes: >rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu (R o d Johnson) writes: > >>Questions and thoughts: > >>--anyone notice that Leo seems to have one of those three-triangle >> symbols tatooed on his hand? > >YES! I wonder when they had time to abduct Leo. Whoa! The Major was fighting them tooth and nail; of course it took some time to convert him. Leo - Mr. Potato Head - wouldn't have taken any time at all. >>--the food fight between Pete, Doc and Ben was stupid--and where did >> they get the pie? There was no pie there at the beginning of the scene? > >Think about it. This happened in the RR where pies abound! So what, the scene was still stupid. At least Ben isn't a Civil War general any more, but now he seems to be drifting toward one of the Three Stooges. Ben's character seems to have reached its zenith with the scene of him watching the home movies after his defeat by Catherine, and now its about to auger in to total inanity. Was anybody else surprised that Jerry still hadn't shown up? >>--anyone notice the llama turned up again? Can Dr. Bob Lydecker be >> far behind? > >Scary thought. A better question might be if the OAM can be far >behind. I thought the OAM died after being questioned as MIKE in the Great Northern. >All in all, though, the 26Jan episode was pretty awesome. You have to be kidding. This was the worst episode Lynch has directed. In fact, with the pathetic letdown of the James/Evelyn thread (which wasn't worth much to begin with) I'd nominate this as one of the worst episodes of TP to hit the air so far. -- Dave Mack From tpscam Path: vela!umich!caen!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!apple!tahoe!marcus From: marcus@tahoe.unr.edu (Marcus R. Bonaudi) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: Latest Episode Keywords: BOB, fire sprinkler Message-ID: <5362@tahoe.unr.edu> Date: 28 Jan 91 06:43:53 GMT References: <13700063@hpscdc.scd.hp.com> <3TBcw1w164w@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us> Reply-To: marcus@tahoe.unr.edu (Marcus R. Bonaudi) Distribution: na Organization: University of Nevada - Reno Lines: 9 After reading the latest comment pertaining to the most recent Twin-Peaks episode, I feel that the observation of the mark on the colonel's neck was not that of the sprinkler which Bob supposedly "escaped through". With closer inspection, the sprinkler head resembled nothing near to what the colonel had on his neck. The sprinkler head was completely round with no distinct angles on or around it. Instead, I feel that the three triangles on the colonel's neck was a symbol of the overall undisclosed force that is within the woods--and Bob does live in the woods. According to Mike, the one armed man, Bob is a familiar and he has proven himself to be a psychic entity with his ability to project himself or his spirit into others, but others meaning living beings (living being the important words). I do notthink it was to Bob's liking that he should inhabit a sprinkler head or go through it for that matter, for I do believe that it is not possible. He must have some sort of living host. One arguement to that may be based upon the fact that Cooper, Truman, and Hawk were the only living possibilities of hosts for Bob to inhabit--they should know if Bob were to be in them. That could be true; however, it has been proven through Leeland's testimony, or better yet last words, that he had no idea Bob was in him. Bob could have temporarily been in Hawk just long enough to leave the building and use some sort of animal as his true escape route. All of these are merely guesses and speculations; however, through Lynch's awesome ability to provide abstract meaningless details, I do not ,by any means, condemn the author of the article in which I am responding to. I find it very helpfu to be able to discuss these episodes, for they are strange trying to interpret everything alone. marcus@tahoe.cs.unr.edu From tpscam Path: vela!umich!caen!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!jarthur!ucivax!bonnie.ics.uci.edu!bvickers From: bvickers@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Brett J. Vickers) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: AGH! 26 Jan episode Keywords: Major SPOILERS Message-ID: <27A3DCD0.21916@ics.uci.edu> Date: 28 Jan 91 08:12:00 GMT References: <27A36097.13487@ics.uci.edu> <1991Jan28.014951.25456@Neon.Stanford.EDU> <4903@vela.acs.oakland.edu> Reply-To: bvickers@ics.uci.edu (Brett J. Vickers) Organization: UC Irvine Department of ICS Lines: 33 Nntp-Posting-Host: bonnie.ics.uci.edu michaelg@Neon.Stanford.EDU (Michael Greenwald) writes: >>No! No! No! You were fooled. The fact that the Mysterious Guy showed >>up in the background just >after< Dick mumbles his dying message to be >>sent to his twin brother, doesn't mean that the Mysterious Guy is his >>twin brother. It's Jonathon. (I thought it was Pete at first, but >>after freeze framing it's >clearly< Jonathon). rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu (R o d Johnson) writes: >Whew, I'm glad someone else saw that scene my way. I didn't think >that guy (if it *was* a guy) was Dick's twin. Dick just said "must >tell Ned. . . my twin, you know. . . we never. . . got on too well, >you see." etc., and then in the next shot we see this "guy" watching. >When Brett said it *was* Dick's twin, I couldn't figure out what I >missed. Oh come on Rod... Even though the "mystery man"'s figure was sort of a silhoutte, you could tell it HAD to be Dick's twin. The same silly hair style, the same penchant for tres chic clothing, the same stupid smirk (*yes*, you CAN make out the smirk). And Michael, I don't under- stand how you could possibly think it was Jonathan. The hair was enough to exclude him. I suppose we'll find out next Saturday, though. On another note, I wonder what Nadine's going to do to Ed now that she knows about him and Norma... She just might follow through on that kiss of death. -- bvickers@ics.uci.edu|"One who would guide a leader of men in the uses of life brett@ucippro.bitnet| Will warn him against the use of arms for conquest. | Even the finest arms are an instrument of evil: | An army's harvest is a waste of thorns." - _Tao Te Ching_ From tpscam Path: vela!umich!caen!sdd.hp.com!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!turnkey!crystel!ronnie From: ronnie@crystel.UUCP (Ron Schnell) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: AGH! 26 Jan episode Keywords: Major SPOILERS Message-ID: <131@crystel.UUCP> Date: 28 Jan 91 06:51:14 GMT References: <4897@vela.acs.oakland.edu> <1991Jan27.232350.2946@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> <6231@spdcc.SPDCC.COM> <1991Jan28.004427.10251@eff.org> Reply-To: ronnie@eddie.mit.edu Organization: Secure Online Systems, Inc, Los Angeles, CA Lines: 15 In article <6231@spdcc.SPDCC.COM> rdonahue@spdcc.COM (Bob Donahue) writes: > > If the episode DID happen, can someone get me a copy? I have made a copy of the 26Jan episode available for anonymous FTP from UUNET.UU.NET. It is located in /pub/video/twin-peaks/tp-gif[0000001-837487343], with each file being a frame from the episode. PLEASE do not ask me to mail these to you if you do not have internet access. I will be very busy over the next few weeks and will be unable to respond to any mail requests. Each file has been compressed, then encrypted with the key "WhiteLodge" (case sensitive). #Ron From tpscam Path: vela!umich!caen!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!julius.cs.uiuc.edu!news.cs.indiana.edu!news.nd.edu!mentor.cc.purdue.edu!russelrd From: russelrd@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Robert Russell) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: AGH! 26 Jan episode Keywords: Major SPOILERS Message-ID: <4652@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> Date: 28 Jan 91 06:09:49 GMT References: <4897@vela.acs.oakland.edu> <1991Jan27.232350.2946@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> Reply-To: russelrd@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Robert Russell) Organization: Purdue University Lines: 11 In article <1991Jan27.232350.2946@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> ceblair@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Charles Blair) writes: > > And they got Agnes de Pesto as a temp while Lucy was applying for work as >a waitress at the RR I hated her. When she suduced Andy I thought for sure Lucy would walk in, but she never did. The wardrobe was *good* though. :-) -Matt Brockaman From tpscam Path: vela!umich!caen!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!julius.cs.uiuc.edu!news.cs.indiana.edu!news.nd.edu!mentor.cc.purdue.edu!russelrd From: russelrd@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Robert Russell) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: AGH! 26 Jan episode Keywords: Major SPOILERS Message-ID: <4653@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> Date: 28 Jan 91 06:12:22 GMT References: <4897@vela.acs.oakland.edu> <1991Jan27.232350.2946@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> <6231@spdcc.SPDCC.COM> <1991Jan28.004427.10251@eff.org> <4900@vela.acs.oakland.edu> Reply-To: russelrd@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Robert Russell) Organization: Purdue University Lines: 16 In article <4900@vela.acs.oakland.edu> rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu (R o d Johnson) writes: >In article <1991Jan28.004427.10251@eff.org> mnemonic@eff.org (Mike Godwin) writes: > >>P.S. I'm with Brett--I missed the bit about Andrew Packard's being >>a diabetic. > >I dunno, maybe I'm wrong (that's never happened before!)--what else >would Packard be doing with all that insulin? That *was* insulin, >wasn't it? I was under the impression that it was vials of Blue Goo (tm). This would explain the way that Andrew Packard was able to throw Nadine around like he did. Think about it. -Matt Brockman From tpscam Path: vela!umich!caen!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!magnus.ircc.ohio-state.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!anaconda.cis.ohio-state.edu!krouse-p From: krouse-p@anaconda.cis.ohio-state.edu (Pierce Krouse) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: AGH! 26 Jan episode Keywords: Major SPOILERS like you wouldn't believe! Message-ID: <87719@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu> Date: 28 Jan 91 15:10:17 GMT References: <4897@vela.acs.oakland.edu> <1991Jan27.232350.2946@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> <6231@spdcc.SPDCC.COM> <1991Jan28.004427.10251@eff.org> <4900@vela.acs.oakland.edu> <43292@ut-emx.uucp> Sender: news@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu Reply-To: Pierce Krouse Distribution: na Organization: Ohio State University Computer and Information Science Lines: 24 In article <43292@ut-emx.uucp> js9g@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (S.H. Snyder, Jr. (Jay)) writes: >| >|I dunno, maybe I'm wrong (that's never happened before!)--what else >|would Packard be doing with all that insulin? That *was* insulin, >|wasn't it? >| > >Oh! That was *insulin*! Now I understand why they gave him all the >needle references (tying him in with Blackie, et al). > >God, I've been losing sleep over that...thanks for clearing it up. > >I remain, Didn't look like Insulin to *me*. I thought it was blue, but then again I could never figure out what color Deanna Troi's dress was, either. BTW, Audrey's note didn't wash - you can't spell BOB backwards, you know. -- +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ | "Mmmm, this looks good! What is it?" | | "Lizard-Tail tea" | | "Ooh - been in the family for generations, I bet" | From tpscam Path: vela!rjohnson From: rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu (R o d Johnson) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: AGH! 26 Jan episode (SPOILERS) Keywords: Major SPOILERS Message-ID: <4906@vela.acs.oakland.edu> Date: 28 Jan 91 15:56:02 GMT References: <4897@vela.acs.oakland.edu> <27A36097.13487@ics.uci.edu> <1991Jan28.060955.24293@alembic.acs.com> Reply-To: rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu (R o d Johnson) Organization: Altered States of America Lines: 24 In article <1991Jan28.060955.24293@alembic.acs.com> csu@alembic.acs.com (Dave Mack) writes: >Was anybody else surprised that Jerry still hadn't shown up? Not really. Snappy pacing isn't really one of the strong points here. >>>--anyone notice the llama turned up again? Can Dr. Bob Lydecker be >>> far behind? Hey--maybe it was a *vicuna*! >You have to be kidding. This was the worst episode Lynch has >directed. In fact, with the pathetic letdown of the James/Evelyn >thread (which wasn't worth much to begin with) I'd nominate this >as one of the worst episodes of TP to hit the air so far. Dave you ignorant slut. What about the Clivus Multrum scene? What about Coopers speech about saving the earth? What about the Sungenius references? Definitely Emmy material. (kidding) -- Rod Johnson * rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu * (313) 650 2315 "I pissed on the man who called me a dog. Why was he so surprised?" --Diogenes From tpscam Path: vela!umich!yale!think.com!spool2.mu.edu!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!julius.cs.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!ceblair From: ceblair@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Charles Blair) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: preview at end of 1/26 Message-ID: <1991Jan28.160501.18331@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: 28 Jan 91 16:05:01 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 3 The truck in the preview looked like Leo's to me. I think the hitchhiker getting in was Nadine. From tpscam Path: vela!umich!umeecs!caen!sdd.hp.com!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!lll-winken!sundance!ramsey From: ramsey@sundance.llnl.gov (Susanne Ramsey) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: 1/26/91 episode Message-ID: Date: 28 Jan 91 15:56:24 GMT Sender: usenet@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV Lines: 15 Nntp-Posting-Host: sundance.llnl.gov Okay who's pulling my leg... OUCH Stop that..!!!!! Was there REALLY a show on 1/26... ???? If so I am pleading with someone to make/send me a copy.. Please contact me and I will send you $$ or a blank tape for a copy Thanks Susanne Ramsey ramsey@sundance.llnl.gov (415)423-9530 -- .^.^. Susanne Barbera-Ramsey Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory . o o . 7000 East Avenue L-630 | (415) 423-9530 .>>v<<. Livermore Ca 94550 | ramsey@sundance.llnl.gov _mm.mm_____________________________________________________________________ From tpscam Path: vela!umich!umeecs!caen!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!wdl1.wdl.loral.com!wdl50!mdm From: mdm@wdl50.wdl.fac.com (Mike D Marchionna) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: Credits for 2014 Message-ID: <1991Jan28.175408.6691@wdl1.wdl.loral.com> Date: 28 Jan 91 17:54:08 GMT References: <1991Jan28.043212.2125@nntp-server.caltech.edu> Sender: root@wdl1.wdl.loral.com (SUPER USER) Distribution: na Organization: LORAL Western Development Labs Lines: 26 Nntp-Posting-Host: wdl50 coufal@piglet.caltech.edu (David Ernest Coufal) writes: >Twin Peaks Season Two Episode 14 (2014) >[Opening Credits] >TWIN PEAKS >Starring >Kyle MacLachlan >Michael Ontkean >Madchen Amick >Directed by: Alan Smithee ------------ Goodness gracious! Isn't this the standard name directors use when they don't want their real name to be connected with the project. I also remember David Lynch insisted that the same name be used for the directors credit for the recut TV version of Dune. Makes one wonder if there is some sort of artistic backstabbing going on behind the scenes. -- +--------------||--##--%%--@@------+--------------------------------------+ |El-Rayo-X-----||--##--%%--@@----->| Brain! Brain! What is brain! | |El-Rayo-X-----||--##--%%--@@----->| --Star Trek (Spock's Brain) | +--------------||--##--%%--@@------+--------------------------------------+ From tpscam Path: vela!umich!umeecs!caen!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!spool2.mu.edu!uunet!alembic!csu From: csu@alembic.acs.com (Dave Mack) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: AGH! 26 Jan episode Keywords: Major SPOILERS Message-ID: <1991Jan28.064231.24833@alembic.acs.com> Date: 28 Jan 91 06:42:31 GMT References: <4897@vela.acs.oakland.edu> <1991Jan27.232350.2946@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> <1991Jan28.032044.2105@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> Organization: Alembic Computer Services McLean VA Lines: 36 In article <1991Jan28.032044.2105@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> sarwate@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Sanjiv Sarwate) writes: >ceblair@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Charles Blair) writes: > >> And they got Agnes de Pesto as a temp while Lucy was applying for work as >>a waitress at the RR > >Yeah, it was a real thrill to see her again. Yeah, except that it wasn't the actress who played Agnes dePesto. It looks a little bit like her, but it definitely wasn't her. > >Incidentally, did anyone else catch the subtle foreshadowing at the end of >the episode? In the note that Audrey takes from her father's desk? I >was able to freeze on the words on the paper. Using my computer to blow it >up, I read the following: >hguorht eht krad fo erutuf tsap >Eht naicigam sgnol ot ees >Eno stnahc tuo neewteb owt sdlrow >Erif, klaw htiw em. [etc] Interesting. I seem to remember reading something about mirror-writing being common among autistics. This would tie in with Johnny Horne's suddenly-developed ability to drive a car. This would seem to trash my theory that Leo is the new BOB. Unless BOB is bouncing back and forth between Johnny and Leo? Unlikely. Which would mean that the Major Briggs/Leo/radiation-symbol thread probably isn't directly connected to the BOB thread. If so, it's just as well. The whole thing was getting a bit too Byzantine for me. -- Dave Mack From tpscam Path: vela!umich!umeecs!caen!uflorida!mailer.cc.fsu.edu!evax3.eng.fsu.edu!svihla From: svihla@evax3.eng.fsu.edu Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: 1/26/91 -UNBELIEVABLE Message-ID: <1991Jan28.131132.2340@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> Date: 28 Jan 91 18:11:32 GMT Reply-To: svihla@evax3.eng.fsu.edu Distribution: usa Lines: 7 News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4 Did anyone catch the name of the actor who played the Mysterious Indian Gentleman? Sabu - I couldn't believe it - I haven't seen him in years. I thought the three weird sisters send up with the widow Milford, Mrs. Hayward, and the Log Lady was pretty amusing. I was glad to see them finally use the "By the pricking of my thumbs/Something wicked this way comes" line, too. *Gersten*, though, who'd a thunk it? From tpscam Path: vela!rjohnson From: rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu (R o d Johnson) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: 1/26/91 episode Message-ID: <4917@vela.acs.oakland.edu> Date: 29 Jan 91 03:50:26 GMT References: Reply-To: rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu (R o d Johnson) Organization: Altered States of America Lines: 15 In article ramsey@sundance.llnl.gov (Susanne Ramsey) writes: >Okay who's pulling my leg... OUCH Stop that..!!!!! Was there REALLY a show >on 1/26... ???? If so I am pleading with someone to make/send me a copy.. > >Please contact me and I will send you $$ or a blank tape for a copy OK. Suzanne and everyone else that didn't get to see the show, send me some bucks. If I get enough, maybe I'll be able to afford a VCR! -- Rod Johnson * rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu * (313) 650 2315 "I pissed on the man who called me a dog. Why was he so surprised?" --Diogenes From tpscam Path: vela!umich!umeecs!caen!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!ispd-newsserver!kodak!atexnet!dawson From: dawson@epps.kodak.com (Keith Dawson) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: AGH! 26 Jan episode Keywords: Major SPOILERS Message-ID: <5085@atexnet.UUCP> Date: 28 Jan 91 16:14:44 GMT References: <4897@vela.acs.oakland.edu> <1991Jan27.232350.2946@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> <6231@spdcc.SPDCC.COM> <1991Jan28.004427.10251@eff.org> <4900@vela.acs.oakland.edu> <4653@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> Sender: news@atexnet.UUCP Organization: Atex Inc. (A Kodak Company), Billerica, MA Lines: 11 Paul Raveling, where are you now? You simply MUST save this entire thread and get it into the hands of your Frost contact. Two cheers for R o d for starting the most prolific and creative thread in the history of this newsgroup. Now every TPless Saturday can be followed by an explosion of collective invention and mass fantasy on alt.tv.twin-peaks. -- -->Keith dawson@epps.kodak.com "Behind your efforts let there be found your efforts." From tpscam Path: vela!umich!umeecs!caen!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!cs.utexas.edu!titan!ford From: ford@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu (Carolyn Ford) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: WAIT! There was a 1/26 episode?! OH NO!!! Message-ID: <2254@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu> Date: 28 Jan 91 20:12:24 GMT Reply-To: ford@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu () Distribution: usa Organization: Applied Research Labs, University of Texas at Austin Lines: 25 OK, our news feeder seems to have hiccuped over the weekend, so none of the late articles are available. I waited all morning, and only saw one person with the same trouble as me, with no one answering: WHAT 1/26 EPISODE?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Last week the trailers clearly said "In two weeks..." and in the tv listings, something called "Tag Team" (???) was listed for 1/26. Did this only happen in the Austin area? What did we miss? SOMEBODY HELP US!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carolyn Ford ford@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu Applied Research Labs University of Texas ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Oh what a perfect day to think about our silly world. My feet are firmly screwed to the floor, What is there to fear from such a regular world? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From tpscam Path: vela!umich!umeecs!caen!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!jarthur!nntp-server.caltech.edu!owl!coufal From: coufal@owl.caltech.edu (David Ernest Coufal) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: AGH! 26 Jan episode Message-ID: <1991Jan28.201558.28671@nntp-server.caltech.edu> Date: 28 Jan 91 20:15:58 GMT References: <1991Jan28.031048.23047@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG> Sender: news@nntp-server.caltech.edu Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Lines: 16 Nntp-Posting-Host: owl In article <1991Jan28.031048.23047@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG> phil@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Phil Gustafson) writes: >The previews at the end of the 1/19 show said that TP would be back in _two_ >weeks. Nobody got to see a new TP this weekend. Maybe _your_ affiliate postponed the show, but here in Los Angeles KABC _showed_ episode 2014. 10 PM on Saturday; as always. A wrestling show, you say? Maybe your affiliate preempted the show due to the numerous references to Kuwaiti llama wool the mysterious Mr. Dobbs made in the opening sequence. -- David E. Coufal coufal@owl.caltech.edu "One time I removed all the hair from a mouse with Nair-Hair just to see what it looked like. And it looked beautiful." - David K. Lynch From tpscam Path: vela!umich!umeecs!caen!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!cs.utexas.edu!rice!uw-beaver!milton!jespah From: jespah@milton.u.washington.edu (Kathleen Hunt) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: AGH! 26 Jan episode Keywords: Major SPOILERS Message-ID: <15328@milton.u.washington.edu> Date: 28 Jan 91 20:05:37 GMT References: <27A36097.13487@ics.uci.edu> <1991Jan28.014951.25456@Neon.Stanford.EDU> <4903@vela.acs.oakland.edu> Organization: University of Washington, Seattle Lines: 48 In article <4903@vela.acs.oakland.edu> rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu (R o d Johnson) writes: > >Whew, I'm glad someone else saw that scene my way. I didn't think >that guy (if it *was* a guy) was Dick's twin. Dick just said "must >tell Ned. . . my twin, you know. . . we never. . . got on too well, >you see." etc., and then in the next shot we see this "guy" watching. >When Brett said it *was* Dick's twin, I couldn't figure out what I >missed. > >On the other hand, I didn't see it as Jonathan either. Could it be >what's his name, Eckert? But what would the whole Nick'n'Dick >storyline have to do with Eckert anyway? (Of course, now that the >secret of Nicky's parentage is out of the bag, anything could happen.) >Oh well, I'm sure it'll all be made clear in about six months. It couldn't have been Eckert (sp?) because, remember, he was talking to Josie at that cabin, just a few minutes before. I know, I know, we didn't actually *see* him, but Josie was obviously seeing him. Unless she was hallucinating or something, we should assume that it really was Eckert. Poor Josie! She was obviously scared out of her wits! Do you think Harry will rescue her? Or maybe Eckert is just going to threaten her and then let her go. I'm puzzled about how they both got into the Log Lady's cabin, though. >Things We Saw: log truck, sprinklers >Things We Didn't: traffic light, owl >Things I Couldn't Make Out: the special in the RR-- stew? I think it was llama stew. Given what the Air Force pilot said to Coop in the diner, you think Major Briggs is going to be committed to an asylum by the government? Against his will, I mean. From what the pilot said about "drugs in the name of confidentiality" I think the government's going to try to drug Briggs into silence. I'm surprised no one's mentioned the horse at the waterfall. It's obviously the white horse Sarah saw. And Coop *knows* there's something special about it, but I don't know how he's going to convince the town that they've got to rescue the horse off from that rock it's perched on. What is Coop going to try to do, airlift it out with a helicopter? All in all, a good episode. Nice to see Julee Cruise again. Kathleen jespah@milton.u.washington.edu From tpscam Path: vela!umich!umeecs!caen!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!uunet!timbuk!shamash!bls From: bls@u02.svl.cdc.com (Brian Scearce) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: AGH! 26 Jan episode Keywords: Major SPOILERS Message-ID: <30119@shamash.cdc.com> Date: 28 Jan 91 19:52:24 GMT References: <4897@vela.acs.oakland.edu> <1991Jan27.232350.2946@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> <1991Jan28.032044.2105@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> Sender: usenet@shamash.cdc.com Lines: 13 sarwate@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Sanjiv Sarwate) writes: >Eno stnahc tuo neewteb owt sdlrow I thought it read, "Eno ecnahc tuo neewteb owt sdlrow". :-) >I'm not sure what the note means, but the suddenly serious expression on >Audrey's face after she reads it leads me to suspect the worst. Any ideas? I can't even begin to imagine the faintest shadow of a guess. -- Brian Scearce (bls@robin.svl.cdc.com -or- robin!bls@shamash.cdc.com) Any opinions expressed herein do not necessarily reflect CDC corporate policy. From tpscam Path: vela!umich!umeecs!caen!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!jarthur!nntp-server.caltech.edu!owl!coufal From: coufal@owl.caltech.edu (David Ernest Coufal) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: Credits for 2014 Message-ID: <1991Jan28.202840.29216@nntp-server.caltech.edu> Date: 28 Jan 91 20:28:40 GMT References: <1991Jan28.043212.2125@nntp-server.caltech.edu> <1991Jan28.175408.6691@wdl1.wdl.loral.com> Sender: news@nntp-server.caltech.edu Distribution: na Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Lines: 32 Nntp-Posting-Host: owl In article <1991Jan28.175408.6691@wdl1.wdl.loral.com> mdm@wdl50.wdl.fac.com (Mike D Marchionna) writes: >coufal@piglet.caltech.edu (David Ernest Coufal) writes: >>Twin Peaks Season Two Episode 14 (2014) >>Directed by: Alan Smithee >Goodness gracious! Isn't this the standard name directors use when they don't >want their real name to be connected with the project. Yes. As several posters have noted, David Lynch _did_ direct this episode, but he was apparantly upset with the outcome and had his name removed. > I also remember David >Lynch insisted that the same name be used for the directors credit for the >recut TV version of Dune. Exactly. There have been several films in which the Alan Smithee credit has been used, the most famous of which is, of course, the film noir "Laura." (Hmm. Could this be another sly TP film reference?) Otto Preminger, the original director, was replaced midway into filming, and the new director (whose name remains unknown) requested his credit be removed since it wasn't "his work." Just another trivia factoid. -- David E. Coufal coufal@owl.caltech.edu "One time I removed all the hair from a mouse with Nair-Hair just to see what it looked like. And it looked beautiful." - David K. Lynch From tpscam Path: vela!umich!umeecs!caen!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!jarthur!nntp-server.caltech.edu!pooh!ejohnson From: ejohnson@pooh.caltech.edu (Eric C. Johnson) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: AGH! 26 Jan episode (SPOILERS) Keywords: Major SPOILERS Message-ID: <1991Jan28.204218.29699@nntp-server.caltech.edu> Date: 28 Jan 91 20:42:18 GMT References: <27A36097.13487@ics.uci.edu> <1991Jan28.014951.25456@Neon.Stanford.EDU> <1991Jan28.054550.24045@alembic.acs.com> Sender: news@nntp-server.caltech.edu Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Lines: 24 Nntp-Posting-Host: pooh In article <1991Jan28.054550.24045@alembic.acs.com> csu@alembic.acs.com (Dave Mack) writes: > >I can deal with that. ITL is just window-dressing. The thing that >really bothers me is that, in the last scene in the sheriff's office, >Lucy was starting to show a noticeable bulge in the abdominal area. >Don't these people bother to keep track of how much time has passed >in TP? She's barely over three months pregnant; she can't possibly >be starting to show it yet. > I was really disappointed when I saw this as well. I kept expecting this to happen in the past. Fortunately, though, it didn't, until this episode. For crying-out-loud, it all happened in one day "Twin Peaks Time". Maybe she was just really hungry and ate Andy's boots. I supposed you noticed that he was barefoot this week. Eric C. Johnson The Second Most Dangerous Man in the Universe ejohnson@eeyore.caltech.edu -- I...believe in cholesterol, cigarettes, alcohol, masturbation, carbon monoxide, the Arts Council, nuclear weapons, the _Daily Telegraph_, and not properly labelling fatal poisons. But most of all, above all else, I believe in the one thing which can come out of people's mouths. Vomit. From tpscam Path: vela!umich!umeecs!msi.umn.edu!vixvax.mgi.com!eiswirth From: eiswirth@vixvax.mgi.com (Steve Eiswirth) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Panic in the T.C. area Message-ID: <1991Jan28.083501.709@vixvax.mgi.com> Date: 28 Jan 91 14:35:01 GMT Organization: Management Graphics, Inc. Lines: 9 HELP!! I'm seeing comments from people about a 26-JAN episode that was NOT on in the Twin Cities area because of a Timberwolves game. Was there really an episode shown in other parts of the country? I could have sworn that during the previews shown after the 19-JAN episode that they said "In Two Weeks." Are we Twin Citians behind a week now? From tpscam Path: vela!umich!umeecs!caen!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!uunet!bellcore!att!cbnews!itch From: itch@cbnews.att.com (richard.m.brack) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: AGH! 26 Jan episode Keywords: Major SPOILERS Message-ID: <1991Jan28.205532.8769@cbnews.att.com> Date: 28 Jan 91 20:55:32 GMT References: <4897@vela.acs.oakland.edu> <1991Jan27.232350.2946@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> <131@crystel.UUCP> Distribution: usa Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 27 In article <131@crystel.UUCP>, ronnie@crystel.UUCP (Ron Schnell) writes: > In article <6231@spdcc.SPDCC.COM> rdonahue@spdcc.COM (Bob Donahue) writes: > > > > If the episode DID happen, can someone get me a copy? > > I have made a copy of the 26Jan episode available for anonymous FTP > from UUNET.UU.NET. It is located in > /pub/video/twin-peaks/tp-gif[0000001-837487343], with each file > being a frame from the episode. PLEASE do not ask me to mail these > to you if you do not have internet access. I will be very busy over > the next few weeks and will be unable to respond to any mail requests. > > Each file has been compressed, then encrypted with the key > "WhiteLodge" (case sensitive). > > #Ron I was about to download the gifs but then I thought "Hey, what about the sound?". Where can I get a sound sample of the entire episode to go with the gifs? RichBrack -- { the itchman cometh /-/ _ i don't want to be your angel } { itch@cbnews.att.com /-/ _|_|_ i want to be your witch! } { att!cbnews!itch \-\/-/ ( * )tch -yello } { \/\/ /^\ } From tpscam Path: vela!umich!samsung!sdd.hp.com!ucsd!ucbvax!agate!riacs!pioneer.arc.nasa.gov!howells From: howells@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (John Howells) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: Credits for 2014 Message-ID: <1991Jan28.211251.22493@riacs.edu> Date: 28 Jan 91 21:12:51 GMT References: <1991Jan28.043212.2125@nntp-server.caltech.edu> <1991Jan28.175408.6691@wdl1.wdl.loral.com> <1991Jan28.202840.29216@nntp-server.caltech.edu> Sender: news@riacs.edu Distribution: na Organization: RIACS, NASA Ames Research Center Lines: 21 coufal@owl.caltech.edu (David Ernest Coufal) writes: Date: 28 Jan 91 21:15:14 GMT Organization: University of Washington, Seattle Lines: 64 A lot of people seem to have missed the 1/26/91 episode, so I thought it might be helpful if I transcribed that key scene near the end. It went as follows: ************************** Coop is standing in front of Sheriff's office, as the ambulance pulls away (with Dick's body inside). The ambulance goes farther and farther away. Everyone but Coop goes back into the building. Close-up of Coop, looking puzzled. The siren is not fading even though the ambulance is gone. The siren starts to slow and go lower and lower. Coop has clearly entered that strange Giant/dwarf time zone. Overhead shot of Sheriff's department, bathed in red light. Cooper is standing alone. Then, a ground-level shot. A llama (alpaca?) is walking toward Cooper. As it passes him, suddenly the OAM is there. The OAM says: You wonder about the threshold, beyond the fire. I tell you it is *NOT* there. There are many...in the woods...the old place, the *wild* *woods* with *wolves* [he emphasizes each word]. The house of Pan. Cooper: Where in the woods? OAM: In the wood there is a place. For a - long - time we have been there. It is a white house, in red trees. Only animals can travel there, only animals travel out. Birds can fly... Cooper: Has Major Briggs been there? OAM: Any who fly, any on four hooves, can come *if* they know the way. Oho, but those who choose to fly must be careful! [the OAM gives a choking laugh and looks up; there is a wailing sound; there is a sudden shower of small silver things, I couldn't see what they were -- all this just lasts a couple seconds] I know you want to come [approaches Coop, grabs him arm] but it is the core of the world! Be careful, or it may be your fatal vision. The transition is...difficult. When I came out, BOB... took over. I can no longer return. The OAM then looks down, and there on the ground between the OAM's and Cooper's feet is a word made of sticks: "EKOJ" Cooper looks at the llama and, unexpectedly, it turns its head (its body still facing away] and looks at him. Coop takes a step toward the llama, but the OAM is still holding his arm and he says: OAM: We need your help against the ravens. Then Coop looks at the llama -- it has changed into a horse! He looks back toward the OAM, but the OAM is gone. He hears hooves for a moment and looks back toward the horse, but it too is gone. The red light fades, a puff of wind blows by, and we hear somebody laughing. *********************** That's all. So what do you all think? Are Lynch/Frost leading into some sort of raven/owl/llama/horse war? I think Lynch is definitely leaning toward incorporating all those old myths and religions about animal gods into TP in some way. Maybe this place in the woods is where the old gods that are no longer worshipped go to retire, or something. I dunno. And what about that laughter? I think the key part of that whole scene, though, is the word made of sticks. Jespah From tpscam Path: vela!umich!samsung!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!julius.cs.uiuc.edu!zweig From: zweig@cs.uiuc.edu (Johnny Zweig) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT 1/26 EPISODE Message-ID: <1991Jan28.215841.27237@julius.cs.uiuc.edu> Date: 28 Jan 91 21:58:41 GMT Sender: news@julius.cs.uiuc.edu (USENet News) Reply-To: zweig@cs.uiuc.edu Organization: U of Illinois, Dept. of Computer Science, Systems Research Group Lines: 19 According to reliable sources inside NBC: Despite the many claims to the contrary, there WAS INDEED an episode of Twin Peaks aired on January 26, 1991. The protracted discussion of its contents was all totally legitimate. The episode was preempted in many areas due to sagging interest on the part of the viewing public. There was an editorial mistake that caused the episode aired on January 19, 1991 to run the title "In two weeks...." this was caused by operator error and can be attributed to the War in the Gulf. The postings to alt.tv.twin-peaks saying things like "relax, this whole 1/26 episode thing is a hoax" are being posted by disgruntled individuals who are protesting about the limited areas that chose to broadcast the episode. The episode was run, Dick Tremain did perish, Andrew Packard was seen with syringes and vials of unknown substances (possibly drugs used for chemical interrogation, CIA-style, which relates to the top-secret Briggs goings-on), James was rescued from the Spider Woman, etc. -Johnny Official From tpscam Path: vela!umich!umeecs!caen!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!mok From: mok@itsgw.rpi.edu (... Mok) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: WAIT! There was a 1/26 episode?! OH NO!!! Message-ID: <&J0^-V#@rpi.edu> Date: 28 Jan 91 21:28:00 GMT References: <2254@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu> Distribution: usa Organization: University of Cynosure, Department of Pure and Applied Wierdness Lines: 35 Nntp-Posting-Host: jec401.its.rpi.edu In article <2254@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu> ford@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu () writes: > >OK, our news feeder seems to have hiccuped over the weekend, so none of the >late articles are available. I waited all morning, and only saw one person >with the same trouble as me, with no one answering: > >WHAT 1/26 EPISODE?!?!?!?!?!?!?! > >Last week the trailers clearly said "In two weeks..." and in the tv >listings, something called "Tag Team" (???) was listed for 1/26. Did this only >happen in the Austin area? What did we miss? I didn't get a 1/26 episode either. I had the same symptoms that yo describe. Where idd they see Twin Peaks if it wasn't in Texas or New York? Also, are they going to have an episode next week when we (hopefully) see the one we missed? > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Carolyn Ford ford@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu >Applied Research Labs >University of Texas >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Oh what a perfect day to think about our silly world. > My feet are firmly screwed to the floor, > What is there to fear from such a regular world? >------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- _ _ _ As I patrol the valley of Shadowless Death, I will fear / ) ) ) / Evil for I am but Mortal and mortals can only die. / / / __/_> / ( (_/(_) \ Eat a pop-tart for Jesus --><-- mok@pawl.rpi.edu From tpscam Path: vela!umich!samsung!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!casbah.acns.nwu.edu!ucsd!ucbvax!agate!shelby!hsdndev!husc6!ukma!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!skybridge!davisp From: davisp@skybridge.SCL.CWRU.Edu (Palmer Davis) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: All this stuff about the {1/26,2/2} episode.... Keywords: Major SPOILERS, green fuzzy bananas Message-ID: <1991Jan28.223655.7499@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> Date: 28 Jan 91 22:36:55 GMT References: Sender: news@usenet.ins.cwru.edu Organization: Drug Enforcement Agency, Twin Peaks WA Lines: 15 X-Post-Machine: wrangell.scl.cwru.edu Nntp-Posting-Host: wrangell.scl.cwru.edu Hey, guys, if you're going to post information about an episode some of us haven't seen yet, would you please put a ^L or a bunch of blank lines in front of the spoiler material so that those of us who don't want to know can avoid reading it? My newsreader gives me a screenful of message text before I get the chance to skip the rest of the article; from what I haven't been able to avoid reading so far I've been forced to find out more than I want to about the next episode! -- PTD -- -- Palmer T. Davis | davisp@scl.cwru.edu -OR- ptd2@po.cwru.edu Case Western Reserve University | {att,sun,decvax,uunet}!cwjcc!skybridge!davisp ------------------------------------------------------+------------------------ Wake up and smell the cat food in your bank account. | Life is short. From tpscam Path: vela!umich!samsung!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!att!pacbell.com!ucsd!ucbvax!agate!riacs!pioneer.arc.nasa.gov!howells From: howells@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (John Howells) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT 1/26 EPISODE Message-ID: <1991Jan28.223620.23904@riacs.edu> Date: 28 Jan 91 22:36:20 GMT References: <1991Jan28.215841.27237@julius.cs.uiuc.edu> Sender: news@riacs.edu Organization: RIACS, NASA Ames Research Center Lines: 12 zweig@cs.uiuc.edu (Johnny Zweig) writes: Date: 28 Jan 91 23:39:46 GMT References: <91025.115833JDO106@psuvm.psu.edu> <15158@milton.u.washington.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of Chicago Lines: 29 In article <15158@milton.u.washington.edu> jespah@milton.u.washington.edu (Kathleen Hunt) writes: >In article <91025.115833JDO106@psuvm.psu.edu> JDO106@psuvm.psu.edu writes: >>While browsing through the postings in this newsgroup, I noticed >>that one vital aspect of discontinuity with established history >>slipped by. Namely, the South did not win at Gettysburg, nor did >>they take Little Round Top as Ben Horn would have us believe. >I thought this was because Ben Horne was trying to replay history his own >way, much as he might want to redo his own life. Indeed, in 2013, he said to Catherine, "You defeated me, as I have defeated General ." (I don't remember exactly who he said--who was the Union general at Gettysburg? Not Grant, was it?) In other words, Ben has suffered a critical defeat, and is responding by rewriting history so that another critical defeat is reversed. Just as he wishes he could go back and redo his actions with Catherine. Of course, in light of 2014, the thought of Ben being able to extract any kind of revenge becomes pretty ludicrous, doesn't it? -- Janet Swisher Internet: swsh@midway.uchicago.edu University of Chicago Phone: (312) 702-7608 Academic and Public Computing P-mail: 1155 E. 60th St. Chicago IL 60637, USA From tpscam Path: vela!umich!samsung!rex!uflorida!mailer.cc.fsu.edu!evax0.eng.fsu.edu!svihla From: svihla@evax0.eng.fsu.edu Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: 1/26/91 - Invitation to Love Message-ID: <1991Jan28.183636.975@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> Date: 28 Jan 91 23:36:36 GMT Reply-To: svihla@evax0.eng.fsu.edu Distribution: na Lines: 12 News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4 I had trouble hearing the dialogue in "Invitation to Love" during the scene with Shelley, Bobby, and Leo - between the chainsaw and the screaming, it was hard make out much of anything. Anyway, I thought Montana's speech might have a direct bearing on the story, so I taped it, took it in to work and digitized it, so I could filter out all that high frequency noise. Here's what he said (I tried to indicate his drawl as best I could): "Ah'll pack a picnic basket for us. Ya sure you don't wanna cold beer before we go?... Vic? You in a hurry or somethin'? Well, ahm a dang fool if ah didn't forget - you're a Buddhist!" I should have known it'd have absolutely no relevance whatsoever. From tpscam Path: vela!umich!samsung!caen!uflorida!mailer.cc.fsu.edu!evax0.eng.fsu.edu!svihla From: svihla@evax0.eng.fsu.edu Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: OH NOOOOOOOOO! Message-ID: <1991Jan28.193535.1599@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> Date: 29 Jan 91 00:35:35 GMT Reply-To: svihla@evax0.eng.fsu.edu Distribution: na Organization: Florida State University Computing Center Lines: 2 News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4 I just heard Twin Peaks is going on hiatus until April 1. Boy, am I bummed. Oh well, at least we found out who shot Cooper. From tpscam Path: vela!umich!samsung!emory!emcard!mat From: mat@emcard.UUCP (W Mat Waites) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: preview at end of 1/26 Message-ID: <8283@emcard.UUCP> Date: 28 Jan 91 21:35:05 GMT References: <1991Jan28.160501.18331@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> Reply-To: mat@emcard.UUCP (W Mat Waites) Organization: Emory Univ CDB Lines: 10 In article <1991Jan28.160501.18331@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> ceblair@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Charles Blair) writes: > > The truck in the preview looked like Leo's to me. I think the hitchhiker >getting in was Nadine. Could someone with a really good VCR freeze the frame in the preview with the lingerie (?) hanging from the tree limb. I think I recognize it as Audrey's. -- W Mat Waites | Walking the wire is living, {gatech,emory}!emcard!mat | the rest is just waiting. - Wallenda From tpscam Path: vela!umich!caen!sdd.hp.com!spool2.mu.edu!uunet!orca!javelin.es.com!cdimick From: cdimick@javelin.es.com (Clint Dimick) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Missed 1/26/91?! Message-ID: <1991Jan29.010514.3645@javelin.es.com> Date: 29 Jan 91 01:05:14 GMT Reply-To: cdimick@javelin.sim.es.com Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp., Salt Lake City, Utah Lines: 13 Well, if I've missed a 1/26 episode of Twin Peaks, I definately need to contact someone who's willing to send me a videotape of it. Would someone here be so kind as to offer me a copy? Please mail me! - Thanks! Clint Dimick -- The Land of No Return __ bow ._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._. (801) 485-6879 \__/oo) wow | ._| . . ._| . | . . | . ._| . | . | Help Poopie find the bone!( -\/ woof ._._._|_._._._|_._|_|_._._._._|_._|_. )=( cdimick@javelin.sim.es.com// \\ (Damn I'm hungry!) From tpscam Path: vela!umich!samsung!cs.utexas.edu!utgpu!utorvm!ryerson!libr8506 From: LIBR8506@Ryerson.CA Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: I figured it all out. **Spoilers from 1/19** Message-ID: <91028.132127LIBR8506@Ryerson.CA> Date: 28 Jan 91 18:21:27 GMT References: <22817@well.sf.ca.us> <13700069@hpscdc.scd.hp.com> <27A0DBF8.26672@ics.uci.edu> Lines: 4 How come no snobbish hipsters complained about the lack of show last Saturday? Geesh, you guys are so inconsistent. Not one panicky remark.."Oh no! They have cancelled my reason to live!" etc. From tpscam Path: vela!umich!samsung!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!jarthur!nntp-server.caltech.edu!ejohnson From: ejohnson@nntp-server.caltech.edu (Eric C. Johnson) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: AGH! 26 Jan episode Message-ID: <1991Jan29.055124.19769@nntp-server.caltech.edu> Date: 29 Jan 91 05:51:24 GMT References: <1991Jan28.031048.23047@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG> <1991Jan28.201558.28671@nntp-server.caltech.edu> <14234@ulysses.att.com> Distribution: na Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Lines: 22 In article <14234@ulysses.att.com> ekrell@ulysses.att.com (Eduardo Krell) writes: >The New York City ABC station also preempted TP. I wonder how they will >catch up given that other stations did air this episode on 1/26. >Are they going to be 1 week behind forever? > More than likely they'll just skip that episode and go on to the next one. Twin Peaks does so dismally in the ratings that many stations have become rather lax in when and if they show a particular episode. It's too bad, though, because the 1/26 episode was pretty good, despite a few particularly ridiculous moments. Hope this helps. Eric C. Johnson The Second Most Dangerous Man in the Universe ejohnson@eeyore.caltech.edu -- I...believe in cholesterol, cigarettes, alcohol, masturbation, carbon monoxide, the Arts Council, nuclear weapons, the _Daily Telegraph_, and not properly labelling fatal poisons. But most of all, above all else, I believe in the one thing which can come out of people's mouths. Vomit. From tpscam Path: vela!umich!caen!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!ucselx!petunia!unmvax!ariel.unm.edu!triton.unm.edu!blowfish From: blowfish@triton.unm.edu (rON.) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: AGH! 26 Jan episode Keywords: Major SPOILERS Message-ID: <1991Jan29.035814.955@ariel.unm.edu> Date: 29 Jan 91 03:58:14 GMT Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque NM Lines: 12 In article <30119@shamash.cdc.com> bls@u02.svl.cdc.com (Brian Scearce) writes: >sarwate@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Sanjiv Sarwate) writes: >>I'm not sure what the note means, but the suddenly serious expression on >>Audrey's face after she reads it leads me to suspect the worst. Any ideas? >I can't even begin to imagine the faintest shadow of a guess. Perhaps it is because Audrey is not a pro-wrestling fan.... rON. (blowfish@hydra.unm.edu!ariel.unm.edu) "It is only with the heart that one see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye." From tpscam Path: vela!umich!caen!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!cunixf.cc.columbia.edu!cunixb.cc.columbia.edu!jfl From: jfl@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Juan F Lara) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: AGH! 26 Jan episode Summary: 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) Keywords: Ain't this Fun?! Message-ID: <1991Jan29.064727.7772@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> Date: 29 Jan 91 06:47:27 GMT References: <4652@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> <397.27a476da@zodiac.rutgers.edu> <1991Jan29.055318.16490@engin.umich.edu> Sender: news@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (The Daily News) Distribution: usa Organization: Columbia University Lines: 34 And I'm glad to see Isabella Rosellini taking a role in the show. She's a wel- come sight to add some talent and imagination to the show. She takes off from her voodoo experience in "Wild at Heart" somewhat in her role as the lead witch of Mrs. Milford's coven ( Well, it SEEMED like that was her role to me. ) and she applies the right look for the role. I'm telling you, one mean look from her and you feel like you're gonna die on the spot! And that new cartoon parody that Nicky watches every afternoon is a new twist. I knew that David Lynch's part-time job as an editor at Disney would pay off. The furries in this 'toon look like they'd fit right into the Disney Afternoon, in fact. But I'm sure it's not gonna be what it seems as we see more of it in later episodes. And now the preview: I'm looking forward to the scene where the TV reporter ( Mark Frost ) interviews Gordon Cole ( David Lynch ) for an explanation to all the crime going on around here. It's about time they paired off Lynch and Frost on the screen. I'll be wearing my earmuffs though, when they come to Frost's line: "Now Mr. Cole, just speak into the mike like you normally would." ( BTW: I've heard rumors that when he does do that, the volume will blow Frost's brains out, and we'll get to see his grey matter oozing out his ears. Good thing censorship isn't what it used to be. Cole meanwhile will be charged with manslaughter, and Coop has to stay around even longer to give his boss moral support. "HOW CAN I STAY REGIONAL CHIEF? " Cole bemoans. "I'M A MANSLAUGHTERER!" ) - To everyone Juan F. Lara Truman: Hawk, you better get that search warrent to Harold Smith's house and get that diary. Hawk: I will, Sheriff Truman. Just as soon as I finish my good cup of cof- fee. From tpscam Path: vela!umich!caen!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!julius.cs.uiuc.edu!apple!agate!tornado.Berkeley.EDU!dpassage From: dpassage@tornado.Berkeley.EDU (David G. Paschich) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Episode on 1/26????? Summary: Frustration and annoyance Message-ID: <1991Jan29.080950.7336@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: 29 Jan 91 08:09:50 GMT Sender: usenet@agate.berkeley.edu (USENET Administrator) Followup-To: alt.tv.twin-peaks Distribution: na Organization: ucb Lines: 12 They aired an episode on January 26th? There was no episode aired on that date by KGO in San Francisco, which is ABC owned and operated. Not only that, but neither the station in Sacramento nor the one in San Jose (both of which are listed in the SF Chronicle [not known for its accuracy, I'll admit]) had Twin Peaks listed. Is there major crap going on here? If so, who's gonna mail me a copy of the 1/26 episode? :-) David Paschich dpassage@ocf.berkeley.edu Just say no to huge .sigs! From tpscam Path: vela!rjohnson From: rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu (R o d Johnson) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: I figured it all out. **Spoilers from 1/19** Message-ID: <4921@vela.acs.oakland.edu> Date: 29 Jan 91 13:53:25 GMT References: <22817@well.sf.ca.us> <13700069@hpscdc.scd.hp.com> <27A0DBF8.26672@ics.uci.edu> <91028.132127LIBR8506@Ryerson.CA> Reply-To: rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu (R o d Johnson) Organization: Altered States of America Lines: 17 In article <91028.132127LIBR8506@Ryerson.CA> LIBR8506@Ryerson.CA writes: > > How come no snobbish hipsters complained about the lack of show last >Saturday? Geesh, you guys are so inconsistent. Not one panicky remark.."Oh no! >They have cancelled my reason to live!" etc. Geez, Linda, get with the program, eh? ^^ (Canadian content) -- Rod Johnson * rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu * (313) 650 2315 "I pissed on the man who called me a dog. Why was he so surprised?" --Diogenes From tpscam Path: vela!umich!samsung!uunet!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!agate!riacs!pioneer.arc.nasa.gov!howells From: howells@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (John Howells) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: 1/26/91 Message-ID: <1991Jan29.141143.8790@riacs.edu> Date: 29 Jan 91 14:11:43 GMT References: <1991Jan28.205052.2358@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> Sender: news@riacs.edu Distribution: na Organization: RIACS, NASA Ames Research Center Lines: 20 In article <1991Jan28.205052.2358@mailer.cc.fsu.edu>: Date: 29 Jan 91 17:41:37 GMT Sender: news@athena.mit.edu (News system) Reply-To: jlschwar@athena.mit.edu (Jeffrey L Schwartz) Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Lines: 5 Maybe having Lucy's pregnancy show in the 1/26 episode was the point. I don't think the baby's father is Dick or Andy but -- Little Nicky! (Don't possessed children have shorter gestation periods?) Jeff Schwartz From tpscam Path: vela!wsu-cs!umich!caen!uflorida!mailer.cc.fsu.edu! Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: 1/26/91 Message-ID: <1991Jan28.205052.2358@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> Date: 29 Jan 91 01:50:52 GMT Distribution: na Lines: 10 News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4 Gee, I was surprised no one caught the parallels between the Dick/Lucy/Andy/Nicky orphanage scene and the Odessa steps sequence from Eisenstein's "Battleship Potemkin". I bet that's the last time Gwen asks Lucy to babysit! I also thought the Tibetan dream sequence was a knockout. I couldn't tell whether that was K2 or Everest, I always get them confused. I almost jumped out of my chair when they superimposed BOB's face onto the snow leopard. (BTW, could anybody tell who the half-eaten body was supposed to be? My girlfriend thought it was the Log Lady, but I was pretty sure it was Jerry - poetic justice, you know). From tpscam Path: vela!wsu-cs!umich!samsung!caen!uwm.edu!rutgers!zodiac!burnet From: burnet@zodiac.rutgers.edu Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: AGH! 26 Jan episode Message-ID: <397.27a476da@zodiac.rutgers.edu> Date: 28 Jan 91 19:09:14 GMT References: <4897@vela.acs.oakland.edu> <1991Jan27.232350.2946@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> <4652@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> Organization: Rutgers University - Computing Services Lines: 8 No one has mentioned the sheer humor of this episode. My wife and I were rolling on the floor! Especially at the look on Cooper's face in the final scene--a classic. I'd make copies of the episode for those of you who need it, but unfortunately I left it sitting around & my dog ate it! Gary B. From tpscam Path: vela!wsu-cs!umich!samsung!usc!jarthur!nntp-server.caltech.edu!eeyore!coufal From: coufal@eeyore.caltech.edu (David Ernest Coufal) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: Credits for 2014 Message-ID: <1991Jan29.031340.14861@nntp-server.caltech.edu> Date: 29 Jan 91 03:13:40 GMT References: <1991Jan28.175408.6691@wdl1.wdl.loral.com> <1991Jan28.202840.29216@nntp-server.caltech.edu> <1991Jan28.211251.22493@riacs.edu> Sender: news@nntp-server.caltech.edu Distribution: na Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Lines: 36 Nntp-Posting-Host: eeyore howells@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (John Howells) writes: >Wrong. "Laura" was not credited to Alan Smithee. It was credited to >Preminger who took over direction from Ruben Mamoulian. No, no, no, you're thinking of the 1944 version of "Laura" starring Gene Tierney and Dana Andrews. The Alan Smithee "Laura" was a remake filmed in 1956, starring Janet Leigh as Laura, Orson Welles as Detective McPhereson, Charlton Heston as Shelby and Dennis Weaver in his first film role as Waldo. The plot is extremely similar to the original but for one point: Charlton Heston did his entire role in an affected Mexican accent, for reasons known only to "Alan Smithee." > I may have just >fallen into someone's trap! Help! I've fallen into a trap and I can't get up! > John Howells > howells@earth.arc.nasa.gov > howells@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov -- David E. Coufal coufal@owl.caltech.edu "One time I removed all the hair from a mouse with Nair-Hair just to see what it looked like. And it looked beautiful." - David K. Lynch From tpscam Path: vela!wsu-cs!umich!samsung!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!decwrl!world!eff!mnemonic From: mnemonic@eff.org (Mike Godwin) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: AGH! 26 Jan episode Keywords: Major SPOILERS Message-ID: <1991Jan29.023853.15085@eff.org> Date: 29 Jan 91 02:38:53 GMT References: <1991Jan28.014951.25456@Neon.Stanford.EDU> <4903@vela.acs.oakland.edu> <15328@milton.u.washington.edu> Organization: The Electronic Frontier Foundation Lines: 29 In article <15328@milton.u.washington.edu> jespah@milton.u.washington.edu (Kathleen Hunt) writes: > >Given what the Air Force pilot said to Coop in the diner, you think Major >Briggs is going to be committed to an asylum by the government? Against >his will, I mean. From what the pilot said about "drugs in the name of >confidentiality" I think the government's going to try to drug Briggs into >silence. I took that part differently. I think the Air Force guy's veiled reference means that the USAF is going to use drugs to help Briggs *recover his full memories* of the so-called "close encounter"--in order to prevent Briggs from allowing those memories to resurface in an *uncontrolled environment*. I think this explains why the preview shows Coop invoking his federal connections to get Briggs loose--I look forward to next week's episode to see if he pulls this off. --Mike -- Mike Godwin, (617) 864-0665 | "That information, as I have repeated infinitely mnemonic@eff.org | to myself, is classified ... though the keeping Electronic Frontier | of secrets ... seems less meaningful to me now." Foundation | --Major Garland Briggs From tpscam Path: vela!umich!samsung!sdd.hp.com!usc!julius.cs.uiuc.edu!apple!agate!shelby!mcnc!beguine!pelham!rslugg From: rslugg@pelham.med.unc.edu (Robert Slugg) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: AGH! 26 Jan episode Keywords: Major SPOILERS Message-ID: <2424@beguine.UUCP> Date: 29 Jan 91 19:33:46 GMT References: <4897@vela.acs.oakland.edu> <1991Jan27.232350.2946@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> <6231@spdcc.SPDCC.COM> <1991Jan28.004427.10251@eff.org> <4900@vela.acs.oakland.edu> <4653@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> Sender: usenet@beguine.UUCP Reply-To: rslugg@uncmed.med.unc.edu (Robert Slugg) Organization: UNC-CH School of Medicine Lines: 13 Did anyone notice the black bag that Andrew used for storing the insulin vials and the needles? It appeared to have some writing on the side, but I could only make out ??nny von Bulo? and underneath that ??wport R? Does this refer to an early episode or to perhaps another case that Coop investigated? Also, where did James get the panties with LP printed on them? Donna didn't appear amused when James sniffed them, smiled, am and then put them on. At least we got to see James with something more than a blank stare on his face, and Donna showing an expression that made sense in the context of the scene. From tpscam Path: vela!wsu-cs!umich!caen!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!att!att!dptg!ulysses!ulysses.att.com!ekrell From: ekrell@ulysses.att.com (Eduardo Krell) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: AGH! 26 Jan episode Message-ID: <14234@ulysses.att.com> Date: 29 Jan 91 02:51:47 GMT References: <1991Jan28.031048.23047@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG> <1991Jan28.201558.28671@nntp-server.caltech.edu> Sender: netnews@ulysses.att.com Organization: AT&T Bell Labs Lines: 7 The New York City ABC station also preempted TP. I wonder how they will catch up given that other stations did air this episode on 1/26. Are they going to be 1 week behind forever? Eduardo Krell AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill, NJ UUCP: {att,decvax,ucbvax}!ulysses!ekrell Internet: ekrell@ulysses.att.com From tpscam Path: vela!umich!caen!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!magnus.ircc.ohio-state.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!erg.cis.ohio-state.edu!krouse-p From: krouse-p@erg.cis.ohio-state.edu (Pierce Krouse) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: AGH! 26 Jan episode Keywords: Major SPOILERS Message-ID: <87787@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu> Date: 29 Jan 91 19:12:37 GMT References: <4897@vela.acs.oakland.edu> <1991Jan27.232350.2946@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> <131@crystel.UUCP> <1991Jan28.205532.8769@cbnews.att.com> Sender: news@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu Reply-To: Pierce Krouse Distribution: usa Organization: Ohio State University Computer and Information Science Lines: 19 ... >> I have made a copy of the 26Jan episode available for anonymous FTP >> from UUNET.UU.NET. It is located in >> /pub/video/twin-peaks/tp-gif[0000001-837487343], with each file ... >I was about to download the gifs but then I thought "Hey, what about the >sound?". Where can I get a sound sample of the entire episode to go with >the gifs? > ... I downloaded the first few hundred frames and strung them together into an animated sequence with some HP vaporware before someone finally sent me the tape in the mail. Anyway, you don't need to worry about the lack of sound files, the episode frames in that FTP site are in un-decoded closed-captioned format, you can just read the dialogue right off the screen ... From tpscam Path: vela!umich!caen!sdd.hp.com!cs.utexas.edu!helios!wolter From: wolter@cs.tamu.edu (Jan D. Wolter) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: WAIT! There was a 1/26 episode?! OH NO!!! Message-ID: <11597@helios.TAMU.EDU> Date: 29 Jan 91 19:14:09 GMT References: <2254@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu> Sender: usenet@helios.TAMU.EDU Distribution: usa Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University Lines: 14 >In article <2254@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu> ford@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu () writes: >WHAT 1/26 EPISODE?!?!?!?!?!?!?! > >Last week the trailers clearly said "In two weeks..." and in the tv >listings, something called "Tag Team" (???) was listed for 1/26. Did this >only happen in the Austin area? What did we miss? Twin Peaks wasn't shown in College Station either. When I called the local network they told me that *no* episodes would be missed. They taped the 1/26 episode and will be broadcasting it this Saturday, while taping this Saturday's episode for next Saturday. We will continue to lag the rest of the country by a week until the end of the season. I don't know if this applies to the rest of Texas. So don't read any of the articles on the 1/26 episode posted from other parts of the country. They are full of spoilers. From tpscam Path: vela!umich!samsung!sdd.hp.com!usc!jarthur!nntp-server.caltech.edu!piglet!coufal From: coufal@piglet.caltech.edu (David Ernest Coufal) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: 1/26/91 episode Message-ID: <1991Jan29.203931.18531@nntp-server.caltech.edu> Date: 29 Jan 91 20:39:31 GMT References: <4917@vela.acs.oakland.edu> Sender: news@nntp-server.caltech.edu Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Lines: 12 Nntp-Posting-Host: piglet >>Please contact me and I will send you $$ or a blank tape for a copy >OK. Suzanne and everyone else that didn't get to see the show, send >me some bucks. Or Kill Him. -- David E. Coufal coufal@owl.caltech.edu "One time I removed all the hair from a mouse with Nair-Hair just to see what it looked like. And it looked beautiful." - David K. Lynch From tpscam Path: vela!umich!caen!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!julius.cs.uiuc.edu!psuvax1!psuvm!mxl4 From: MXL4@psuvm.psu.edu Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: WAIT! There was a 1/26 episode?! OH NO!!! Message-ID: <91029.175216MXL4@psuvm.psu.edu> Date: 29 Jan 91 22:52:16 GMT References: <2254@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu> <11597@helios.TAMU.EDU> Distribution: usa Organization: Penn State University Lines: 15 Same holds true for State College - an anti-College cabal? - as well. Sincere request that posters reference episode(s) discussed by # convention used on this net. Those of you who already have seen 1/26 and do not think this important, wait until YOUR local yahoo station manager does a switcheroo - and we all find ourselves on different sequences! (let alone alternate planes/plains (for those in Texas) of consciousness.) Mostly THE BEAR aka MXL4@PSUVM () () o . o Not a By-product of Any Technology! xxx From tpscam Path: vela!umich!caen!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!think.com!mintaka!bloom-picayune.mit.edu!athena.mit.edu!joe From: joe@athena.mit.edu (Joseph C Wang) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: AGH! 26 Jan episode Summary: Major SPOILERS Keywords: Major SPOILERS Message-ID: <1991Jan29.235639.10247@athena.mit.edu> Date: 29 Jan 91 23:56:39 GMT References: <4900@vela.acs.oakland.edu> <4653@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> <2424@beguine.UUCP> Sender: news@athena.mit.edu (News system) Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Lines: 47 The 1/26 episode of Twin Peaks wasn't seen in the Boston area, but fortunately I have a friend with a VCR in a place where it shown. It would be interesting to track where it was and wasn't shown. Anyway.... (DON'T READ IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN 1/26). MAJOR SPOILERS..... In talking with people who have seen 1/26, my impression is that either one will think that it's the best Twin Peaks ever, or the worst Twin Peaks. No one I've talked to has had lukewarm reactions. I think that a lot of the compliants the 1/26 wasn't "Twin Peaks" enough are misplaced. I see 1/26 as Lynch trying to parody comedy in much the same way he tries to parody soap operas in the rest of the show. The pie fight scene was one of the best scenes to have appeared on Twin Peaks thus far. It seems that Lynch is not only a dramatic director of first rate (Maddy's death), but that he is also an excellent comedic director. Indeed, the rather poignant ending to that scene could almost be described as "tragic" relief, bringing the reader back down to reality and showing how low Ben has sunk. (Did anyone notice the workman during the scene? Was he fixing "sprinklers" perhaps?) I feel very sorry for people who missed the episode, because I doubt they'll be able to piece together what happened this week from next week's episode. I'm almost convinced that Lynch knew in advance that half of "Twin Peaks" viewers would miss this episode, and decided to use this as an opportunity to take some very bold risks and to experiment with the comedic side to the characters. At the same time, the plot in this episode reminds me a lot of "Candide" in that the ending leaves off roughly where the beginning was. As a result, viewers who miss 1/26, might not even notice when they see the next episode, and as a result they will be deprieved of some wonderful insights into our favorite cast of characters along with some belly laughs. Anyway, try to get a copy of 1/26, you'll either love it or hate it. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joseph Wang (joe@athena.mit.edu) Wake Up! Wake Up! 450 Memorial Drive C-111 All who wish not to be slaves. Cambridge, MA 02139 From tpscam Path: vela!umich!caen!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!ub!uhura.cc.rochester.edu!rochester!pt.cs.cmu.edu!o.gp.cs.cmu.edu!CS.CMU.EDU!webb From: webb@CS.CMU.EDU (Jon Webb) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: Episode on 1/26????? Message-ID: <1991Jan29.232827.15717@cs.cmu.edu> Date: 29 Jan 91 23:28:27 GMT References: <1991Jan29.080950.7336@agate.berkeley.edu> Sender: netnews@cs.cmu.edu (USENET News Group Software) Reply-To: webb@CS.CMU.EDU (Jon Webb) Distribution: na Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon University Lines: 10 I wish people would just stop complaining about missing the 1/26 episode. If you can't put up with a few screwups like not printing the time on which they'd actually show the episode (here in Pittsburgh they actually showed a previous episode of Twin Peaks at 9:00 AM Sunday morning -- after that my wife and I learned to call the station whenever we suspected something was up), then you're not a real Twin Peaks fan, and you deserve to miss one of the funniest, strangest episodes they've shown. And I'm not sending you my copy, either :-). -- J From tpscam Path: vela!umich!caen!hellgate.utah.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!nosc!gandalf.nosc.mil!carlin From: carlin@gandalf.nosc.mil (Mike Carlin) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Sound problems during 1/26/91 episode Message-ID: <3452@nosc.NOSC.MIL> Date: 30 Jan 91 00:15:57 GMT Sender: nobody@nosc.NOSC.MIL Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego Lines: 10 Originator: carlin@gandalf.nosc.mil KGTV Channel 10, the ABC affiliate in San Diego, experienced sound problems during the 1/26/91 episode. The audio level dropped so low that it became impossible to hear any dialog. Did any other part of the country suffer this problem or was it limited to San Diego? Unfortunately, the problem occurred during the pivotal scene where Dick died. Just as Dick was about to utter his final words, the sound dropped out :-(. I'd appreciate it if someone would post Dick's last words. Mike Carlin From tpscam Path: vela!umich!samsung!sdd.hp.com!decwrl!mejac!orchard.la.locus.com!turnkey!crystel!ronnie From: ronnie@crystel.UUCP (Ron Schnell) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: MAC Sound for 1/26 Episode Message-ID: <132@crystel.UUCP> Date: 29 Jan 91 03:00:13 GMT Reply-To: ronnie@eddie.mit.edu Organization: Secure Online Systems, Inc, Los Angeles, CA Lines: 12 I have made the audio to the 1/26 episode available via anonymous ftp from UUNET.UU.NET in /pub/audio/twin-peaks/tp[000000-90000]. Syncing up is easy. Find the gif frame where LEO is touching his nose with his tongue. Then sync it up with the sound bite which sounds like a waterfall of saliva. Enjoy! #Ron P.S. As always, do not send mail requests for these files. This time I'm REALLY busy. From tpscam Path: vela!umich!samsung!caen!uflorida!mailer.cc.fsu.edu!evax0.eng.fsu.edu!svihla From: svihla@evax0.eng.fsu.edu (Kurt Svihla) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: Sound problems during 1/26/91 episode Message-ID: <1991Jan29.200417.19187@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> Date: 30 Jan 91 01:04:16 GMT References: <3452@nosc.NOSC.MIL> Reply-To: svihla@evax0.eng.fsu.edu Distribution: na Lines: 28 News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4 In article <3452@nosc.NOSC.MIL>, carlin@gandalf.nosc.mil (Mike Carlin) writes... > >KGTV Channel 10, the ABC affiliate in San Diego, experienced sound >problems during the 1/26/91 episode. The audio level dropped so low that >it became impossible to hear any dialog. Did any other part of the >country suffer this problem or was it limited to San Diego? >Unfortunately, the problem occurred during the pivotal scene where Dick >died. Just as Dick was about to utter his final words, the sound dropped >out :-(. I'd appreciate it if someone would post Dick's last words. > >Mike Carlin Hmm, I had trouble making out his dying words too - there was a scratching sound like a needle on an empty turntable that made it really hard to pick up his voice. I could only get about every other word, but I pieced it together as best I could. When he held Lucy's hand for the last time, I think he said: "I always made an awkward bow." When he looked at Nicky and shrank away, I think he said: "The horror." When he turned his face away from everyone, just before he breathed his last, I'm pretty sure he said: "The rest is silence." I thought the scene was photographed well, but those last bits of dialogue were pretty lame. Who wrote that garbage anyway? (BTW, was that a llama or an alpaca coming out of the light?) From tpscam Path: vela!umich!caen!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!uunet!bellcore!twinkie!bobh From: bobh@twinkie.bellcore.com (Bob Hettmansperger) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: AGH! 26 Jan episode Keywords: Comparisons Message-ID: <1991Jan30.010321.23705@bellcore.bellcore.com> Date: 30 Jan 91 01:03:21 GMT References: <4900@vela.acs.oakland.edu> <4653@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> <2424@beguine.UUCP> <1991Jan29.235639.10247@athena.mit.edu> Sender: bobh@twinkie.bellcore.com Reply-To: bobh@twinkie.UUCP (Bob Hettmansperger) Followup-To: alt.tv.twin-peaks Distribution: usa Organization: Bell Communications Research, Red Bank, New Jersey Lines: 17 In article <1991Jan29.235639.10247@athena.mit.edu> joe@athena.mit.edu (Joseph C Wang) writes: >The 1/26 episode of Twin Peaks wasn't seen in the Boston area, but fortunately >I have a friend with a VCR in a place where it shown. It would be interesting >to track where it was and wasn't shown. I think it would also be interesting to compare the plots as they were presented in the different areas where it was shown. My understanding was that ABC, discovering that Twin Peaks had different appeal in different areas, has gone to a region-based plot development plan. The country has been sectioned off into "zones of interest." I think there are currently seven, although I'm not sure exactly where the borders are. In each zone, different plot lines will be emphasized and developed differently. At the end of this season it will be revealed that the whole thing was actually seven different dreams of different characters on the show and season three will start over with the discovery of Laura Palmer's body. I can't wait. -boB bobh@twinkie.bellcore.com From tpscam Path: vela!umich!samsung!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!julius.cs.uiuc.edu!apple!well!idddev From: idddev@well.sf.ca.us (Innovative Data Design) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Smithee's skill Keywords: Nudity Death Rain Spain Bunny Brain Message-ID: <22929@well.sf.ca.us> Date: 30 Jan 91 01:56:04 GMT Lines: 8 Unlike many others in this newsgroup, I think the episode directed by Alan Smithee was about the best all season. I'm really glad to see him returning to TV work. Angus MacDonald idddev@well.sf.ca.us Opinions expressed in this message are solely my own. From tpscam Path: vela!umich!caen!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!jarthur!nntp-server.caltech.edu!eeyore!ejohnson From: ejohnson@eeyore.caltech.edu (Eric C. Johnson) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: AGH! 26 Jan episode Keywords: Comparisons Message-ID: <1991Jan30.024315.925@nntp-server.caltech.edu> Date: 30 Jan 91 02:43:15 GMT References: <2424@beguine.UUCP> <1991Jan29.235639.10247@athena.mit.edu> <1991Jan30.010321.23705@bellcore.bellcore.com> Sender: news@nntp-server.caltech.edu Distribution: usa Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Lines: 43 Nntp-Posting-Host: eeyore In article <1991Jan30.010321.23705@bellcore.bellcore.com> bobh@twinkie.UUCP (Bob Hettmansperger) writes: >In article <1991Jan29.235639.10247@athena.mit.edu> joe@athena.mit.edu (Joseph C Wang) writes: >>The 1/26 episode of Twin Peaks wasn't seen in the Boston area, but fortunately >>I have a friend with a VCR in a place where it shown. It would be interesting >>to track where it was and wasn't shown. > >I think it would also be interesting to compare the plots as they were >presented in the different areas where it was shown. My understanding >was that ABC, discovering that Twin Peaks had different appeal in different >areas, has gone to a region-based plot development plan. The country has >been sectioned off into "zones of interest." I think there are currently >seven, although I'm not sure exactly where the borders are. In each zone, >different plot lines will be emphasized and developed differently. At >the end of this season it will be revealed that the whole thing was actually >seven different dreams of different characters on the show and season three >will start over with the discovery of Laura Palmer's body. I can't wait. > No, no, no. You're thinking of The Cosby Show which has seven plot lines. Twin Peaks only has SIX regional variations. I'm becoming more and more disenchanted with the Net as a source of News since someone always invariable gives out misinformation trying to deceive other people. I've been collecting the various plotlines throughout the country and will be posting them soon if there are enough requests. However, I can let you in on the biggest change so far, namely that in the North Alaskan version Dick did not die in the 1/26 episode, but rather Ben was stopped just in time before strangling him to death. Cooper came rushing through the door, saw what was happening, and immediately started chastizing Ben for his evil deeds, telling him that the bellhops from the White Lodge were coming to take him away. Major Briggs then came in and starting dancing the Jitterbug. I am fortunate enough to have people throughout the nation taping Twin Peaks and you'll have to trust me that this was perhaps the greatest scene in the history of televsion. Just send me $20.00 and a blank tape and I'll send you a copy. Eric C. Johnson The Second Most Dangerous Man in the Universe ejohnson@eeyore.caltech.edu -- I...believe in cholesterol, cigarettes, alcohol, masturbation, carbon monoxide, the Arts Council, nuclear weapons, the _Daily Telegraph_, and not properly labelling fatal poisons. But most of all, above all else, I believe in the one thing which can come out of people's mouths. Vomit. From tpscam Path: vela!umich!caen!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!noao!amethyst!organpipe!astro.as.arizona.edu!pathall From: pathall@astro.as.arizona.edu (Patrick Hall) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: 1/26/91 episode -- the llama scene Message-ID: <943@organpipe.UUCP> Date: 30 Jan 91 00:01:14 GMT References: <15334@milton.u.washington.edu> Sender: news@organpipe.UUCP Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ Lines: 28 Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: 1/26 episode Summary: Expires: References: Sender: pathall@as.arizona.edu Followup-To: Distribution: Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ Keywords: A few comments: -- The TV guide listing for the 2/2 episode here in Tucson says something like "Cooper tells the story of Wyndham Earle to Sheriff Truman; Catherine reveals something to an astonished Pete." Can anyone tell me if that describes the 1/26 episode? I hope so; I wouldn't mind being one week behind the rest of the country, (it's better than missing an episode) but I doubt that that's what will happen. --If indeed TV stations here and elsewhere are just planning to skip the 1/26 episode, could somebody post a summary of the plot of said episode INCLUDING A ^L OR LOTS OF BLANK LINES AT THE TOP PLEEEEASE!!! I've already learned more about the 1/26 episode than I would have liked. thanks in advance, pat From tpscam Path: vela!umich!caen!sdd.hp.com!cs.utexas.edu!utgpu!utorvm!ryerson!admn8647 From: ADMN8647@Ryerson.CA (Linda Birmingham) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: AGH! 26 Jan episode Message-ID: <91029.105719ADMN8647@Ryerson.CA> Date: 29 Jan 91 15:57:19 GMT References: <1991Jan28.031048.23047@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG> <1991Jan28.201558.28671@nntp-server.caltech.edu> <14234@ulysses.att.com> Lines: 11 All you people writing about the Jan 26 show, definitely should have put *SPOILER* on your headings :) Linda ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "They are sacrificing to our Canadian God", said Solly, "We all believe that if we fret and abuse ourselves sufficiently, Providence will take pity and smile on anything we attempt" R. Davies, Tempest Tost ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tpscam Path: vela!umich!caen!sdd.hp.com!ucsd!ucbvax!agate!headcrash.Berkeley.EDU!dpassage From: dpassage@headcrash.Berkeley.EDU (David G. Paschich) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: AGH! 26 Jan episode Summary: Oh what a tangled web we weave Keywords: twin peaks january hoax fun fun fun Message-ID: <1991Jan30.071057.11843@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: 30 Jan 91 07:10:57 GMT References: <1991Jan28.201558.28671@nntp-server.caltech.edu> <14234@ulysses.att.com> <91029.105719ADMN8647@Ryerson.CA> Sender: usenet@agate.berkeley.edu (USENET Administrator) Followup-To: alt.forgery Distribution: na Organization: ucb Lines: 9 In article <91029.105719ADMN8647@Ryerson.CA> ADMN8647@Ryerson.CA (Linda Birmingham) writes: >All you people writing about the Jan 26 show, definitely should have >put *SPOILER* on your headings :) Or at least "hoax". :) David G. Paschich dpassage@ocf.berkeley.edu Just say no to huge .sigs! From tpscam Path: vela!umich!samsung!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!caen!sdd.hp.com!hplabs!hpcc05!hpcuhb!hpkslx!oz From: oz@hpkslx.mayfield.HP.COM (Kent Ostby) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: WAIT! There was a 1/26 episode?! OH NO!!! Message-ID: <26430007@hpkslx.mayfield.HP.COM> Date: 29 Jan 91 21:25:22 GMT References: <2254@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu> Organization: HP Response Center Lab Lines: 22 >/ hpkslx:alt.tv.twin-peaks / mok@itsgw.rpi.edu (... Mok) / 1:28 pm Jan 28, 1991 / >In article <2254@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu> ford@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu () writes: >> >>OK, our news feeder seems to have hiccuped over the weekend, so none of the >>late articles are available. I waited all morning, and only saw one person >>with the same trouble as me, with no one answering: >> >>WHAT 1/26 EPISODE?!?!?!?!?!?!?! >> >>Last week the trailers clearly said "In two weeks..." and in the tv >>listings, something called "Tag Team" (???) was listed for 1/26. Did this only >>happen in the Austin area? What did we miss? > >I didn't get a 1/26 episode either. I had the same symptoms that yo describe. >Where idd they see Twin Peaks if it wasn't in Texas or New York? Also, are they >going to have an episode next week when we (hopefully) see the one we missed? > pssst.... don't tell anyone, but they're making up all the stuff about the 1/26 episode. Sort of yanking your cord, ya know ... Oz From tpscam Path: vela!umich!caen!sdd.hp.com!news.cs.indiana.edu!cica!ogre!mr From: mr@ogre.cica.indiana.edu (Michael Regoli) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: 1/26 Episode: A Hoax Message-ID: <10264@cica.cica.indiana.edu> Date: 30 Jan 91 17:46:14 GMT Sender: news@cica.cica.indiana.edu Distribution: world Lines: 22 ][ If it's a hoax, then won't this be revealed at the beginning of the 2/2 show? I seem to recall "catch-up" bits from the previous show at the start of each episode. And, can we really believe there are 6+ plot derivations? The production expense of 6+ episodes for every one shown has to be incredible. For me, I'll be looking at the 2/2 episode in relation to Leo Johnson. He was shown interacting with Shelly at the end of 1/19. If 2/2 picks up where 1/19 left off, either my network affiliate is time shifting (and I'll be forever a week behind, or there never was a 1/26. I have three good ABC signals (Indianapolis, Terre Haute, and Louisville). I'll be checking them all! -- michael regoli mr@ogre.cica.indiana.edu regoli@iubacs.bitnet ...rutgers!iuvax!cica!mr From tpscam Path: vela!rjohnson From: rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu (R o d Johnson) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Llama Nnews Message-ID: <4951@vela.acs.oakland.edu> Date: 30 Jan 91 23:17:16 GMT Reply-To: rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu (R o d Johnson) Organization: Altered States of America Lines: 30 OK, there's been some debate about whether the ungulate in 1/26 was a llama, an alpaca or what, so I did a little research. I looked up some pictures of all of the various candidate species and ran them through a digitzer. I'll put them up here, and you can download one of the frames from that scene from uunet and compare for yourself. Unfortunately the pictures came out a little small, though, so it's best to view them on a display with at least 2048 pixels per inch (4096 is better), or else a lot of the detail is going to be lost. OK: LLAMA: ~m VICUNA: ~m ALPACA: ~m and just for comparison, here's a CAMEL: ~m I think you'll all agree these show pretty conclusively that the animal is a llama. Either that or a brontosaurus, but market research says dinosaurs are pretty much for the kidvid market only. -- Rod Johnson * rjohnson@vela.acs.oakland.edu * (313) 650 2315 "The sun is one foot wide" --Heraclitus From tpscam Path: vela!umich!samsung!sdd.hp.com!usc!apple!motcsd!udc!aduane From: aduane@urbana.mcd.mot.com (Andrew Duane) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: Episode on 1/26????? Message-ID: <2391@urbana.mcd.mot.com> Date: 29 Jan 91 16:56:23 GMT References: <1991Jan29.080950.7336@agate.berkeley.edu> Sender: netnews@urbana.mcd.mot.com Distribution: na Organization: Motorola Microcomputer Division, Urbana [IL] Design Center Lines: 35 In article <1991Jan29.080950.7336@agate.berkeley.edu> dpassage@tornado.Berkeley.EDU (David G. Paschich) writes: >They aired an episode on January 26th? There was no episode aired on that >date by KGO in San Francisco, which is ABC owned and operated. Not only that, >but neither the station in Sacramento nor the one in San Jose (both of which >are listed in the SF Chronicle [not known for its accuracy, I'll admit]) had >Twin Peaks listed. >Is there major crap going on here? If so, who's gonna mail me a copy of the >1/26 episode? :-) Being in San Jose, I agree this is a major bummer. So, I have 3 questions: 1) Will those stations that *didn't* show the 1/26 episode be a week behind, or will they just skip the episode to "catch up"? 2) Who will mail Dave a copy, and will he invite us all up to watch it with him? 3) What is the name/address of someone at ABC we can write to to express our dissatisfaction with this kind of schedule shenanigans? TP is the kind of show where missing an episode can really screw up the rest of the season. If the *holes at ABC haven't figured that out, they have no business producing television shows at all. Well, it's really questionable whether they *do*, but that's another issue. I'm pissed! Andrew L. Duane (JOT-7) w:(508)-685-7200 X122 Samsung Software America decvax!cg-atla!samsung!duane 1 Corporate Drive uunet/ Andover, MA. 01810 duane@samsung.com Only my cat shares my opinions, and she can't reach the TV set. From tpscam Path: vela!umich!umeecs!caen!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!att!cbnews!ajw From: ajw@cbnews.att.com (andrew.j.whitman) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: 26 Jan episode in the Midwest (was Re: AGH! 26 Jan episode) Keywords: Comparisons Message-ID: <1991Jan30.202307.11495@cbnews.att.com> Date: 30 Jan 91 20:23:07 GMT References: <2424@beguine.UUCP> <1991Jan29.235639.10247@athena.mit.edu> <1991Jan30.010321.23705@bellcore.bellcore.com> Distribution: usa Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 70 In article <1991Jan30.010321.23705@bellcore.bellcore.com> bobh@twinkie.UUCP (Bob Hettmansperger) writes: >I think it would also be interesting to compare the plots as they were >presented in the different areas where it was shown. My understanding >was that ABC, discovering that Twin Peaks had different appeal in different >areas, has gone to a region-based plot development plan. The country has >been sectioned off into "zones of interest." I think there are currently >seven, although I'm not sure exactly where the borders are. In each zone, >different plot lines will be emphasized and developed differently. At >the end of this season it will be revealed that the whole thing was actually >seven different dreams of different characters on the show and season three >will start over with the discovery of Laura Palmer's body. I can't wait. As Eric Johnson pointed out, there were actually six region-based plots: Northeast, Southeast, Midwest, Southwest, Northwest, and Quad Cities (although, apparently through network error, some parts of Rock Island and Moline saw the Southeast segment). There were other glitches as well. Viewers in Charleston, West Virginia heard the music (apparently a bizarre fiddle/synth duet) but no dialogue for over four minutes. Viewers in Boston heard the dialogue ("James, get out of that dress and meet me at the gazebo in the pahk") but no music. The scene involving the Widow Milford, the saguaro cactus, and the pinata was inadvertently included in the Northeast segment. Still, it's an intriguing concept, and I hope that Lynch and Frost have the stamina and the geographical wherewithal to carry it through for the rest of the season. It would have been nice to see the llama/alpaca, but I have to admit, here in the midwest the groundhog does make a certain amount of sense. I liked the shots of the wind whistling through the corn stalks. And the food fight with the Cherry Cola Marshmallow jello salad was priceless. And how about Audrey in those overalls!!! For a while there, I really thought she was going to stab Bobby with that pitchfork. What a super episode! I do have a couple of questions though: 1) What was Johnny Horne doing driving that tractor? 2) Was Andrew Packard actually putting *Lorsban 3-in-1 Weed Killer* in those vials? 3) Did anyone else notice the inverted radiation symbols on the side of the silo? 4) Who was the mysterious Gentleman from Omaha who showed up at the Great Plains Motel? Why was he wearing a John Cougar Mellencamp T-shirt? What does "J'aime les cochons" mean? Did anyone else think that he looked a little like a cross between David Lynch and Hoss Cartwright? 5) I'm still not sure that I buy the transformation of Wrangler Hank, the Quick-Tempered Farmhand With A Heart Of Gold. The make-up scene with Norma at the square dance seemed a little forced. And did anyone else notice the continuity error in that scene? The sign on the Grange Hall explicitly stated *Square Dance,* but the dancers were obviously doing a *Schottische*. 6) How did people like Dr. Jacobson, the psychologist/beet farmer, as a clean-shaven, crew-cut All-American boy? I'd like to hear what other people saw in other parts of the country. Folks in the southeast - were there lots of shots of palm trees and members of the TP sheriff's department in pastel-colored suits? Let us know what you saw. Thanks. >-boB bobh@twinkie.bellcore.com Andy Whitman AT&T Bell Laboratories, Columbus, Ohio att!cblpn!ajw or ajw@cblpn.att.com From tpscam Path: vela!umich!caen!les.engin.umich.edu!rcj From: rcj@caen.engin.umich.edu (R o d Johnson) Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks Subject: Re: 26 Jan episode in the Midwest (was Re: AGH! 26 Jan episode) Keywords: Comparisons Message-ID: <1991Jan30.230412.13098@engin.umich.edu> Date: 30 Jan 91 23:04:12 GMT References: <1991Jan29.235639.10247@athena.mit.edu> <1991Jan30.010321.23705@bellcore.bellcore.com> <1991Jan30.202307.11495@cbnews.att.com> Sender: news@engin.umich.edu (CAEN Netnews) Distribution: usa Organization: Knights of Vern Dudley Bohay-Nowell Lines: 33 In article <1991Jan30.202307.11495@cbnews.att.com> ajw@cbnews.att.com (andrew.j.whitman) writes: >What a super episode! I do have a couple of questions though: > >1) What was Johnny Horne doing driving that tractor? >2) Was Andrew Packard actually putting *Lorsban 3-in-1 Weed Killer* > in those vials? >3) Did anyone else notice the inverted radiation symbols on the > side of the silo? >4) Who was the mysterious Gentleman from Omaha who showed up > at the Great Plains Motel? Why was he wearing a John Cougar Man! I saw this and my head just *spun*. I'd heard about this Midwest version but I had no idea it was *this* Midwest-specific. Now, I'm outside Detroit, and I got